so many miracles in the Koran are explained just like that one in youtube… it is so sad, the most pathetic attempts to twist the words until the brittle into becoming some obscure semi-allegory for todays Science…
and as usual, they never realised that was the meaning, until science did…
you would think that they would had used some of the ‘advanced’ knowledge of science in the book, 1600 years ago, before science discovered it by testing and hard work… somehow it is always the other way around,
Science discovers, then the Koran pathetically tries to take credit for it…
Technically the Bible didn’t was so poor at its attempt to estimate pi. I read some time ago that, in fact, the number was written using some kind of numerology and its value was 3′1415 or so. It lacks precision anyway, but it’s a much better estimation.
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1998/158/ if you are interested (google search, not my own site). However, this is not that impressive for two reasons. The first is that if modern day scholars squint at any gematria for long enough, they can find some mix of numbers and words to suit their case. The second is that pi isnt some secret only revealed by modern science. The ratio, and some methods of calculation have been around since fairly ancient times.
From Wikipedia’s history of pi
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_%CF%80″
*The Egyptian scribe Ahmes wrote the oldest known text to give an approximate value for π, citing a Middle Kingdom papyrus, corresponding to a value of 256/81 or 3.160.
*As early as the 19th century BC, Babylonian mathematicians were using π = 25/8, which is within 0.53% of the exact value.
*An early indirect mention of π is in the Bible, 1 Kings 7:23. The large bowl outside the temple in Jerusalem was measured with a circumference of 30 cubits and a diameter of 10, giving a crude estimate of 3 for π. Scholars estimate 1 Kings was written between 971-852 B.C.
*And so on into today’s more sophistocated formulas.
I think the larger tragedy is that the middle east used to be a hotspot of mathematics and logic until “something” changed plunging the whole region into the dark ages much of that region currently enjoys.
A correct reading of the Qur’an shows that the verse talking about the ‘gushing fluid’ is not verse 86:7, but the verse before it. The subject of each verse is ‘man.’ 86:6 addresses an early origin of man, from a gushing fluid, usually taken to mean seminal fluid. 86:7 then follows by addressing a later stage of development of man, when he is in his mother’s womb and is born. Man (not sperm) comes out from between the backbone and the ribs, a rough description of where the uterus is, of his mother.
“Man (not sperm) comes out from between the backbone and the ribs, a rough description of where the uterus is, of his mother.”
Rough description? It’s not even, by any stretch of the imagination, a rough description. It’s utterly inaccurate — completely laughable.
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July 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
If only they actually admitted it like that…
July 24th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Just like the Bible recorded pi centuries early by taking a stab at 3
July 25th, 2007 at 12:48 am
so many miracles in the Koran are explained just like that one in youtube… it is so sad, the most pathetic attempts to twist the words until the brittle into becoming some obscure semi-allegory for todays Science…
and as usual, they never realised that was the meaning, until science did…
you would think that they would had used some of the ‘advanced’ knowledge of science in the book, 1600 years ago, before science discovered it by testing and hard work… somehow it is always the other way around,
Science discovers, then the Koran pathetically tries to take credit for it…
miracle!
July 25th, 2007 at 3:41 am
Technically the Bible didn’t was so poor at its attempt to estimate pi. I read some time ago that, in fact, the number was written using some kind of numerology and its value was 3′1415 or so. It lacks precision anyway, but it’s a much better estimation.
July 25th, 2007 at 8:54 am
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1998/158/ if you are interested (google search, not my own site). However, this is not that impressive for two reasons. The first is that if modern day scholars squint at any gematria for long enough, they can find some mix of numbers and words to suit their case. The second is that pi isnt some secret only revealed by modern science. The ratio, and some methods of calculation have been around since fairly ancient times.
From Wikipedia’s history of pi
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_%CF%80″
*The Egyptian scribe Ahmes wrote the oldest known text to give an approximate value for π, citing a Middle Kingdom papyrus, corresponding to a value of 256/81 or 3.160.
*As early as the 19th century BC, Babylonian mathematicians were using π = 25/8, which is within 0.53% of the exact value.
*An early indirect mention of π is in the Bible, 1 Kings 7:23. The large bowl outside the temple in Jerusalem was measured with a circumference of 30 cubits and a diameter of 10, giving a crude estimate of 3 for π. Scholars estimate 1 Kings was written between 971-852 B.C.
*And so on into today’s more sophistocated formulas.
I think the larger tragedy is that the middle east used to be a hotspot of mathematics and logic until “something” changed plunging the whole region into the dark ages much of that region currently enjoys.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
A correct reading of the Qur’an shows that the verse talking about the ‘gushing fluid’ is not verse 86:7, but the verse before it. The subject of each verse is ‘man.’ 86:6 addresses an early origin of man, from a gushing fluid, usually taken to mean seminal fluid. 86:7 then follows by addressing a later stage of development of man, when he is in his mother’s womb and is born. Man (not sperm) comes out from between the backbone and the ribs, a rough description of where the uterus is, of his mother.
September 5th, 2007 at 11:33 am
“Man (not sperm) comes out from between the backbone and the ribs, a rough description of where the uterus is, of his mother.”
Rough description? It’s not even, by any stretch of the imagination, a rough description. It’s utterly inaccurate — completely laughable.