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  1. The Quran constantly brays
    About its “perfect” ways
    Of murder and rape
    And others descended from an ape
    It justifies violence in many ways.

  2. I’ve read it. No equation in it. Not even f=ma and even secondary school children in the 21st century know that! Bit ignorant the author. But that would be expected in the sixth century CE from a despotic murderer.

  3. It’s a miracle the more fanatical despots and devotees haven’t set off nukes in the name of their phony god and “illiterate” messenger. Yet.

    Then again, on the Christian side we do have Family Guy to thank for a similar observation:
    “Stewie, you’re judgmentally quoting Bible verses and you don’t even know how to read.”
    “Welcome to America, Brian.”

  4. Why should a book that is ‘perfect’ necessarily be proof it was written by a ‘deity’
    can ‘god’ only write [dictate] prefect books ? and if so then clearly ‘god did not dictate the quran as a book that condones misogyny homophobia and slavery cannot be called ‘perfect’

  5. Just curiosity… does it actually say in the Koran that Muhammad was illiterate? Where does that come from? Is it specifically from the Koran or from other Islamic sources (Hadith, Sira, Reliance of the Traveller, etc)?

    Thanks in advance

  6. Wasn’t he an epileptic who had visions after his grand mal attacks? My wife suffered from epilepsy when she was younger and a grand mal is a pretty frightening from an onlookers perspective. To ignorant goat hearders it must have been a sign of special powers…

  7. Yes, Koran 7:157 “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, …” There appears to be some room for doubt that the word translated here as “unlettered” really means illiterate. This is just what I get from a casual web search. To me it implies that if Mohammed wasn’t up to a heavy writing job, he had friends who likely had substantial input into the output. Not that it matters, right? it all came out how God wanted, or what good is omnipotence?

  8. This is completely obvious to everyone here, but WTF, I’ll write it anyway:

    1. An omnipotent god doesn’t need a messenger, because the god can just put the message into everyone’s mind directly.
    2. If someone claims to be a messenger of a god, they’re lying and want something, OR, they’re delusional.

  9. & if it has god level powers but is somewhat less than omnipotent it could eg: write it in letters of fire in the night sky.

  10. I’ve just finished a fairly unbiased biography of Mo, which finally explained all the “nice” Koran verses quoted by Mo’s many apologists.
    Mo wrote two Korans, the Original mecca version is poetic, doesn’t threaten folks and is religious in tone.
    At this stage Mo had few followers and lived in the Arabic version of a sophisticated and tolerant city.
    The medina Koran is written when he has followers, money and has sacked various unarmed trade caravans. It is
    violent, full of hate and not a nice book.
    BUT even though the two books are contradictory they are both perfect hence both must be followed. BUT as a general Islamic rule, later verses replace earlier verses. If in doubt follow the actions of Mo to determine which is correct. Given Mo’s behaviour in his later years the whole horror of proper Islam is easily explained.

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