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There’s an argument that writing stuff down in one place (scriptures, self help books etc.) makes it easy read and mark off as ‘completed’. Then you can ignore the difficult bits yet still feel virtuous.
You can also argue that what makes humans ‘human’ is other humans, or at least how good we are at imitating others’ behaviours. So if you really want to ‘improve’ yourself you need to see others’ virtuous behaviour not read virtuous words. Especially those words written long ago in a distant land, in another language, in a different society by people who thought metaphorically.
That’s the beauty of the bible. You want words of peace? You can find words of peace. You want words of war? Yup, they’re there, too. The bible is an equal-opportunity panderer … which is why the less I have to do with it, the happier I am!
And if we’re going to the pub, make mine a Guinness, please.
M27Holts, if you want guidance on a subject that’s not covered in your “Holy Book” of choice, you find a passage that’s close enough to what you want, and interpret it accordingly. If you have trouble doing this, there are plenty of people in the clergy who would be happy to help.
Of course, if you’re really looking for guidance (rather than validation), it would be better to consult a respected book (or expert) on the subject that is of concern to you. Consulting more than one may result in your making a better decision, but it may also result in confusion–in which case, you might as well go with the book/expert that recommends what you want 😉 .
Brits say they’re “going down the pub.” In a parallel construction, people in New Jersey say they’re “going down the shore.” However, people in California say they’re “going to the beach.” English is a funny, flexible language.
I’m willing to visit a beach, but I’d rather be in a pub where there is heat or air conditioning. Prosecco for me, please–preferably spumante.
when jeff sessions quoted the bible
to rationalize immigration policy
he picked the worst verse
both insane and perverse
that we must obey
or Inshallah
Anonymous, I guess some people quote the bible to justify cruelty, some to instigate acts of kindness, and some to make plain its pinnacles of antique nonsense.
You can see all of the above in most religions, but you know what I’ve never seen in any religion? A god with a sense of humour. The learned people writing here will likely correct my ignorance with examples.
Laripu, you make a good point about why people quote the Bible. Regarding humor, if memory serves, Coyote and Loki are supposed to be trickster gods, so I think they might be said to have a sense of humor. They don’t get as much press as Jesus or Allah, though. I wonder if any of the Hindu gods is supposed to have a sense of humor?
The fact that The Trumpster became POTUS is yet more proof that I am definately in a computer game and that my controller is almost certainly an adolescent male. Only that could explain why I’m horny 24/7!
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very handy that “god’s will” thing: whatever happens was meant to be—except when men kiss men—so let’s not do anything about anything.
Next round’s on me.
There’s an argument that writing stuff down in one place (scriptures, self help books etc.) makes it easy read and mark off as ‘completed’. Then you can ignore the difficult bits yet still feel virtuous.
You can also argue that what makes humans ‘human’ is other humans, or at least how good we are at imitating others’ behaviours. So if you really want to ‘improve’ yourself you need to see others’ virtuous behaviour not read virtuous words. Especially those words written long ago in a distant land, in another language, in a different society by people who thought metaphorically.
Wait a minute: “… down the pub” ?
What’s wrong with the pub?
P.S. I suspect it was supposed to read “… down to the pub.“
Truly the opiate of the masses.
‘Down the pub’ is an English expression.
How many holy books would a dead prophet chuck if a dead prophet could chuck holy books?
The “Random oldie…” button links right back to this comic.
sometimes
Down the pub, rub a dub dub, battle cruiser, nuclear sub, boozer, waterhole, bar, grogshop….English is such a colourful language.
To machigai:
That’s because it’s random.
Or broken.
I prefer to govern my actions according to the following bit of doggerel:
When in danger or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout!
I wonder what the barmaid would have to say about this. I’m sure it would be amusing.
After a search: this is what I had in mind.
http://dilbert.com/strip/2001-10-25
The answer is down the pub, with atheist Bar Maid!
That’s the beauty of the bible. You want words of peace? You can find words of peace. You want words of war? Yup, they’re there, too. The bible is an equal-opportunity panderer … which is why the less I have to do with it, the happier I am!
And if we’re going to the pub, make mine a Guinness, please.
Troubleshooter….What if you want any guidance on any subject that the ignorant compilers of these two holy books didn’t have a clue about?
M27Holts, if you want guidance on a subject that’s not covered in your “Holy Book” of choice, you find a passage that’s close enough to what you want, and interpret it accordingly. If you have trouble doing this, there are plenty of people in the clergy who would be happy to help.
Of course, if you’re really looking for guidance (rather than validation), it would be better to consult a respected book (or expert) on the subject that is of concern to you. Consulting more than one may result in your making a better decision, but it may also result in confusion–in which case, you might as well go with the book/expert that recommends what you want 😉 .
Brits say they’re “going down the pub.” In a parallel construction, people in New Jersey say they’re “going down the shore.” However, people in California say they’re “going to the beach.” English is a funny, flexible language.
I’m willing to visit a beach, but I’d rather be in a pub where there is heat or air conditioning. Prosecco for me, please–preferably spumante.
when jeff sessions quoted the bible
to rationalize immigration policy
he picked the worst verse
both insane and perverse
that we must obey
or Inshallah
Anonymous, I guess some people quote the bible to justify cruelty, some to instigate acts of kindness, and some to make plain its pinnacles of antique nonsense.
You can see all of the above in most religions, but you know what I’ve never seen in any religion? A god with a sense of humour. The learned people writing here will likely correct my ignorance with examples.
Laripu, you make a good point about why people quote the Bible. Regarding humor, if memory serves, Coyote and Loki are supposed to be trickster gods, so I think they might be said to have a sense of humor. They don’t get as much press as Jesus or Allah, though. I wonder if any of the Hindu gods is supposed to have a sense of humor?
Laripu: If God created Donald Trump, I think that proves that He has a sense of humour – albeit a very sardonic black sense of humour.
The fact that The Trumpster became POTUS is yet more proof that I am definately in a computer game and that my controller is almost certainly an adolescent male. Only that could explain why I’m horny 24/7!