sinai
May 26th, 2021
A resurrection from 2008 today.
Here is the article which inspired the original.
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Didn’t mo starve himself to death in the dark of a cave? That would cause hallucinations would it not? And jebus didn’t exist like moses…
Wow. Extremely disrespectful—more than usual. Excellent!
Finally! THEY ADMIT IT!!! After 2,000 years, they can finally admit the truth!
I may faint!
I always thought Mo was like Philip Larkin – “one of those old-style natural fouled-up guys.”
So Moses took two tablets and saw god. Of course. 😉
I like to get fucked up with the best of them, but whatever it was he was on, I don’t want any.
If you talk to god, you are religious. If god talks back you are schizophrenic.
Bvereshagen, I reshaped Bob Dylan lyrics to accord with your observation:
When god said to Abraham “kill me a son”,
Abe shoulda taken some Risperidone.
More info here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risperidone
Well worth the repeating!
But, but!
Jesus is reading the Bible, not a newspaper. No computer or tv in the foreground. He’s getting current events from a bronze-age document, no?
Well, he was a basket case from the start!
Why speculate on the pharmaceutical proclivities of a fictional character? Sherlock Holmes did opium….
Otterbe, it must be the case that while Jesus appears to be reading the bible, the bible is actually hiding a tablet or a cell phone.
Many, perhaps most religious people use the discoveries of science while denying the scientific view of how we got here. For example, Ark Encounter has a website. https://arkencounter.com/
I’m not getting any graphics except for the social media icons on the left. The image URL for the comic is:
data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http://www.w3.org/2000/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20210%20140%22%3E%3C/svg%3E
Is anyone else having this problem?
What I’m seeing is a blank page, except for the social media icons and these text links:
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Newsletter
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Dansk
I got here through the Archives.
Aye website seeming not android browser friendly at the moment
Ironically enough, the Ark Encounter website, link kindly provided by Laripu, is working perfectly!
I think I fixed it. Did I fix it?
M27Holts: de Quincy and Coleridge did opium, Sherlock Holmes preferred cocaine.
The site is still broken for me.
For me, this morning (6:30AM US Easten time, 11:30 UK time, in case that matters) the URL
http://www.jesusandmo.net
does not show the image. However, if I click on the comments link
https://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/sinai/#comments
the image is there, in all it’s holy glory.
Maybe the first link needs that extra lift sometimes? ;). Good luck author, and may angels watch over thee.
(Writing that last phrase actually made me feel icky. 😀 )
Greets, Author!
Very odd. On my Cliqz (a Firefox superset) browser, the site is utterly broken. Same notation on straight-up Firefox: BROKEN. With Microsoft Edge, it comes up.
“Curiouser and curiouser,” quoth Alice.
Just another anecdata point: It renders fine now on my Firefox 88.0.1 on Win 10. Never saw the problems others had this week. Whatever that’s worth.
Still.not rendering properly on my android phone….
Fwiiw:
I duplicate Rrr’s experience.
it’s now working fine every time on the Android phone with Chrome, which is what I always use.
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The discovery that Moses may have been tripping balls when he saw the burning bush makes sense to me. It makes even more sense that he’d interpret the experience as something caused by a god, since that culture, at that time, wasn’t terribly advanced in pharmacology.
There’s an interesting book on ancient cultures and their psychologies, and deities. It’s important to note that the assertions of the book are unverifiable, so it’s not science. I prefer to think of it as interesting science fiction, but it is undeniably a work of great scholarship. It’s called “The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”, written by Julian Jaynes.
My favorite easy idea in the book is the observation that at times we can function correctly without consciousness. For example, when driving long distances, you may have had the feeling of suddenly thinking “wait – I don’t remember the last 50 km!” – or something similar. That has happened to me more than once. We can go on “automatic” with certain tasks, and temporarily, consciousness becomes unnecessary.
And yet you can’t consciously create those circumstances. Jaynes describes that attempt as searching for darkness with a flashlight. Wherever you look, there it isn’t.
Anyway, while I find the idea attractive, just as I find the idea attractive that Moses could have been hallucinating, there isn’t a way to verify either one.
I may have mentioned it on this site before, but as I advance in years, certain cognitive functions may decline, and I could be repeating myself. If so, I apologize for my doddering decrepitude.
I’ve tried four browsers on Win10, and the home page is still broken on every one. All other pages look fine. FWIW, I’m located in New York City, and I just booted up my desktop this morning.
I haven’t read it, but … Jaynes’ idea that early humans’ hemispheres communicated through auditory hallucinations? No. Consider how that would have arisen in the species, given that our ancestors were fairly far along prior to the development of speech. The first speaking humans already had a perfectly workable system for getting things done in the area of cognition. So this bicameral system would have been unnecessary, unique, and apparently then disappeared everywhere. Sure.
The hemispheres do seem to specialize, of course. I think about this often when playing the accordion, which is a mental faculty that I believe resides entirely in the right hemisphere. I also enjoy another faculty, if you will, that is capable of operating an accordion after a fashion, and that’s coupled with conscious awareness in a way that other isn’t; let’s say that’s the left hemisphere. If I have to resort to some conscious memory of what I’ll need to do for the next note, it’s far less likely to come out right, because that’s in the left hemisphere’s domain, and while it knows some things about playing the accordion, it can’t really do it. When the right hemisphere takes over, it can play with far fewer errors and much better musicality, but I have no sense of “how” I’m doing it. It’s just “hearing” it and letting my fingers take over. Maybe that “black box” is where the 50 km. of highway went, too.
I meant to add, everything’s been working fine today. But now I get comments only up to the wee hours of May 27.
If it’s religious terrorists, they have some strange powers.
After getting in I made a bookmark. Works well. Old link fails, the one my firefox browser gives me on windows 10 in the frequently visited queue. That is now my queue anon.
Yes, it takes a while to load, but that is just a good excuse for a High Tea.
Completely out of my “wheelhouse” of “competence” here — but could it be some kind of geographical attack, filtering out some localized parts of teh Internet?
I am in northern Europe and ISTR that Dr Wipper is too. Some of those reporting issues are in UK?
Talking through my hat, of course.
Donn, a bit of coincidence. I stumbled on this today, that mentions the burning bush in relation to bicameralism:
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/bicameralism.htm?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=flipboard-story&utm_content=stoned-ape-hyppothesis
I just want to be clear that I don’t believe in it. I just like reading about it the way I like reading science fiction. Because it’s fun.
Author – Something is wrong with the site again, for me. The comic image is not there, replaced by an icon that usually indicates a missing image, and next to it the word “sinai”.
I can get to this page by going to the previous comic, then back to the last one.
Since that’s haven’t been many posts tells me that others might be having the same problem.
Author, then
when I do a refresh to check for potential new comments and/or a new topic,
the number of comments goes from 33 to 10. A “Previous” + “Last” then show 34.
Definitely “something” wrong still.
Wow.
My previous comment firstly went into moderation (Why then).
and part of it disappeared. It now looks a bit “drunken”, but I guess the intention still can be discerned.
It’s a mess, Dr J. I’m trying to fix, but it’s one step forward two steps back at the moment.
Well the home page is back. But now I can no longer get to the current comic’s comments, even through the Archives. However I seem to be able to get to comment sections of previous comics. I’ll try again later.