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  1. RobJFH says:

    My head hurts

  2. Paradoctor says:

    If God said He doesn’t exist but He does exist then He’s a liar, and so no God at all; and if He said that he doesn’t exist and He doesn’t exist then He’s honest and He made a miracle, so He is God after all. So if God said he doesn’t exist then He exists as much as He doesn’t. A paradox!

    And if God says nothing at all then in effect He’s saying that He doesn’t exist.

  3. That guy over there says:

    @Paradoctor: well, since God is everything it is inevitable that S/He/IT is also a liar, as well as a sadist and a mass murderer as documented in The Holy Book (whatever one that is). If lying decreases Jesus’ estimation of It, but he has no problem with the other aspects, then that really says a lot about Jesus, doesn’t it?

  4. paradoctor says:

    That guy:

  5. postdoggerel says:

    I’m sure Roger Penrose could explain this conundrum with a brief excursion into Gödel’s incompleteness theorem and its effect on the concept of understanding, or looking at a problem from outside its explicit assumptions.

  6. M27Holts says:

    ^ Isn’t tgat to do with set theory? And anybody religious reading this…, yes it is all Tennis in reality…

  7. M27Holts says:

    The new Extremism law? Making children recite the Koran is now a criminal offence? Better build a few thousand new prisons then? Won’t hold my breath though….

  8. Anonymous says:

    Evangelists should be afraid of Venn diagrams. They can get coupled up with some nasty brethren. Those circular inclusion zones are not to be trifled with. You’re either with’em or agin’em. They would be remiss not to acknowledge their alikeness to those they would disdain, but it is moral certitude that unites them, and that, in the end, is beyond all vain attempts at persuasion, gaslighting, or the like, or do I have that wrong? Asking for a friend.

  9. M27Holts says:

    Evangelists are more afraid of anybody who can think rationaly, which is probably everybody except those equally religious and deluded as them…

  10. Donn says:

    I reckon that’s probably exactly what’s going on. God has by various means deceived us into thinking It doesn’t exist, because after all why would It want us to know?

    It occurred to me while thinking about the Artifiicial Intelligence that’s going to take over the world, which would presumably have some god like qualities even if it falls short of omnipotence that hasn’t always been a requirement. In the science fiction stories, when it’s smart enough to do all this stuff, it’s usually smart enough to know to keep quiet about it – QED.

  11. jb says:

    Donn — Fredric Brown has an answer for you.

  12. M27Holts says:

    Since most invertebrates are more intelligent than evangelists et all it won’t take long for the AI to realise that the naked ape was always going to go extinct…so will.merely speed the extinction a week next tuesday…

  13. Shaughn says:

    Come to think of that, M27Holts, is AI invertebrate?

  14. Len says:

    @ M27Holts
    Can we go extinct a few days later? Tuesdays I go bowling.

  15. M27Holts says:

    AI would be mostly Invertebrate till the
    Machines build those terminator units that I’ve seen in that documentary about the dah when the machines turn against us. But not on a Tuesday, I’ve lodged a complaint on behalf of Liquid Len and his Lensmen…


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