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May 16th, 2012

Eternal, uncreated Word of God it is then.

Jesus is reading In the Shadow of the Sword.

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Discussion (33)¬

  1. Andrew Hall says:
    May 16, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Perhaps Mo should have been reading the newspaper upside down in the last frame.

  2. JohnM says:
    May 16, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Andrew @ #1
    As p = 0.5, either way up seems reasonable 😉

  3. DrJohn says:
    May 16, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    See Tom Holland speaking at the Chalke Valley History Festival http://www.cvhf.org.uk/

  4. Myrrhine says:
    May 16, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Upside-down would imply he really is illiterate. As it stands the point is that it clearly isn’t true. I think the inference is that just because a tradition says that a man was illiterate (or that a woman was nurtured by a palm tree) doesn’t make it true.

  5. Author says:
    May 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    @Myrrhine – Thank you.

  6. Pray Hard says:
    May 16, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Mohammed, like all gods, goddesses, world redeemers, prophets, etc., probably didn’t even exist as a historical person. Simply because a whole bunch of people have believed some/anything for a long time doesn’t make it true either. “Mohammed” was probably nothing but a “gravatar” for the typical desert dwelling, nomadic, lunatic of that time. Chances are, if he did, perhaps, exist as a historical person, most likely he was illiterate. About 99% of people were back then.

  7. Grasshopper says:
    May 16, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    There is the possibility of oral lore being passed down accounting for the ‘borrowing’ aspect, but still…nice comic as ever.

  8. Jerry w says:
    May 16, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Even an illiterate would know if the publication was upside down, there’d be those photos of people standing on their heads and all that. Of course, there’s always the chance that it was an Australian version….

  9. Ophelia Benson says:
    May 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Ooh, double bluff, very nice.

    Always good to see the Staggers teased, too.

  10. Ophelia Benson says:
    May 16, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I also love the NS headline.

    And Jesus playing the “I’m way senior to you” card – I don’t think I’ve seen him do that before.

  11. Nassar Ben Houdja says:
    May 16, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    The inconvenience of truth
    Is that fact and myth are under one roof
    Using either to try making points
    To nit picking dogmatic doinks
    Is a discussion with some other goof.

  12. misanthropope says:
    May 17, 2012 at 4:55 am

    only a goddist would think that illiteracy would associate negatively with having abundant knowledge of superstitions…

  13. Urmensch says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:25 am

    The story of Mary being nurtured by a palm tree might have something to do with the fact that Tamar, which means palm tree, was also a pagan goddess in the ANE.
    She was worshiped in Arabia going back into ancient times, one way which was to dress the palm tree in female garb. It all ties into Asherah poles as symbolic trees.

    Seems to be another example of mythic narrative being historicised, and recycled.

  14. richardelguru says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Very funny, but I now need you to come over here and clean the coffee off my computer screen

  15. dissonant_bystander says:
    May 17, 2012 at 11:24 am

    sorry to hear about your coffee-screen collusion. this page tends to induce that type of behavior, especially if viewed to early in the morning.

  16. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 17, 2012 at 11:41 am

    You’re lucky it’s just coffee on your screen. A friend of mine has a teenager who’se learnt to get around the security settings on the home computer.
    I’ll leave the rest to your imagination 🙂

  17. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 17, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Whoops! Superfluous ‘e’ on ‘who’s’ 🙁

  18. FreeFox says:
    May 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    @AoS: You have “friends” who would keep a teenager from internet porn?! How inhumane! I am shocked, mate. Shocked. o.O

  19. FreeFox says:
    May 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    (Is it some kind of religious prohobition against the exploration and enjoyment of sexuality?)

  20. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 17, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Not exactly FreeFox. ’twas merely a joke that was funnier in the days before every child over the age of 5 owned more personal computing power than NASA used in sending men to the moon.
    Having said that, have a look on youtube for Dara o’Briain’s routine on the dangers of porn.

  21. cebuboy says:
    May 17, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    Dont diss porn man.

  22. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 17, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    FreeFox, I didn’t have time for this earlier but your comments linking teens, porn, and religious prohibition reminded me of an incident from around 10 years ago which may amuse you.
    Some friends of ours happen to be – brace yourself kiddo – Catholics, full-on mass-going, wafer-eating Catholics, who’s youngest boys were young teens at the time, and the only ones still living at home. On the day in question, the family, along with several elderly relatives, had gone back to the house after a church function. My friend switched on the computer, in full view of everybody, to download some photo’s of the do, completely ignorant of the fact that the screen wallpaper had ‘mysteriously’ changed from a rolling landscape scene to a picture that damn near finished off two old maiden aunts.
    Both boys swore innocence on the bible, then went on to convince their dad that he was victim of a computer virus. As an added bonus, so grateful was he that they were able to remove said ‘virus’ that he even gave them five pounds each for doing so.
    I’ve know the boys all their lives and they know that I have never betrayed their confidence, so they related the whole thing to me in hilarious detail a couple of days later (I’d had a rather sanitised version from their dad the day before). For me, the best part was as the eldest boy was describing the hysterical reaction the picture caused.
    “I mean” he said “talk about over-the-top. The whole lot’s been going to mass with Father G_ for ever. You’d think they’d be used to seeing a cunt by now, wouldn’t you”?

  23. hotrats says:
    May 18, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    A of S;
    Now that _is_ funny.

  24. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 18, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Hotrats, those boys have kept me amused for years. The eldest was eighteen when he stopped going to church, and when I asked him why said that as he’d spent the last eighteen years being told what a worthless person he was, he thought he’d have a few years off before getting married.

  25. Jobrag says:
    May 19, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Acolyte of Satan can you post a link to the Dara’s routine I can’t find it.

  26. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 19, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Jobrag, if memory serves it’s in this routine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YIzoLkStDM

  27. HaggisForBrains says:
    May 19, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    AoS – Wrong link, I suspect, but still one of his funniest routines – I’ll have to wipe the tears off my face now, and I’ve seen this one at least three times.

  28. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 19, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    HaggisFor Brains, I can watch him over and over and it never stops being funny. I suppose you’ve seen his routine about putting kids off getting tattoos?
    “Mary, can you give a show at yer arse please love”?

    The bit I’m on about is only about a minute or two long, and I’m pretty sure it was in ‘Talking Funny’, though it could just as easily have been one of his ‘Apollo’ appearances. He foresees a population crisis in the future because everybody’s learnt about sex from the internet, and describes a couple who are having trouble conceiving describing how they have sex.
    Please do take the trouble to find it, it’s hilarious.

  29. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 20, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Fenchurch (with apologies to all for going off topic), I’ve just been looking through some old cartoons and came across a comment by you here; http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/04/22/bear/#comment-175505 so have left a response which might help explain why you saw a reference to a bus in ‘Little Women’.

  30. HaggisForBrains says:
    May 20, 2012 at 10:52 am

    AoS -After wasting an hour of hilarity (it’s a dirty job but…), I think I may have found the routine you referred to. Unfortunately it’s split between two clips (LATA Parts 1 & 2) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfWaV5xyPWo and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C65kCs6-4B0.

  31. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 20, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    “…….and then I pull out and jizz on her tits”! That’s the one, HFB.

    Did you get to see the tattoo routine? The punchline to that one (not the ‘show of yer arse’ line above..it gets better) only works if you’re watching his movements too, so I’ll not spoil it for anyone.

  32. greenman says:
    May 20, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    nonsense! Jesus would never say damn

  33. Acolyte of Sagan says:
    May 21, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Greenman, he’d probably never share a bed with Mo either, but it’s far funnier Authors way.

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