It keeps coming in to my bar.

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  1. Shaughn says:

    Great again. Just great.

  2. Nakul Nitin Gote says:

    I think I didn’t get this one. Can someone explain? Thanks.

  3. Jesus F Iscariot says:

    Nakul… seems like a reference to the superstitious people’s incapacity to see anything as being outside of their god. Like the jeezoid warped egocentric belief that atheists are simply people who hate god. Worshippers can’t get outside their own perspective.

  4. Peter Nason says:

    @Nakul, J&M are accusing the barmaid of obsessing over religion because that’s all they ever hear her talk about. However, the truth is that J&M start the vast majority of the conversations and thereby forcing the barmaid to talk a lot about religion. She may in fact rather talk about football but it doesn’t seem to come up very often. This stems from the fact that it is good form for a bartender to talk to the clients about what the clients want to talk about. I’ve been to bars where the person behind the bar (usually the younger ones) is talking only about themselves and it is very off-putting.

  5. Lonesome pine says:

    Business works in mysterious ways, hod talk is often profitable

  6. M27Holts says:

    In my local the barpersons talk to me about beer and technical/progressive metal…mutual areas of expertise…

  7. And because you keep yapping about it everywhere we go, in everything we read or listen to or watch, because your buildings are all over the place like a bad rash, because there are wars and genocides over it…it’s actually quite a long list once you start compiling it.

  8. M27Holts says:

    Aye. Yet some mad fooker blows himself up at the manchester arena , doing his duty to his warlord and god and you have a public enquiry that lasts 8 weeks and not once is the religion behind the atrocity named as the catalyst for the slaughter…made it seem like an unfortunate accident like an earthquake or whirlwind…

  9. Martin_z says:

    “This stems from the fact that it is good form for a bartender to talk to the clients about what the clients want to talk about.”

    I saw a nice Doonesbury cartoon many years ago when someone told the barman a joke; the barman responded “I don’t get it” and the guy said “Damnit, that’s unprofessional! A good barman laughs anyway!”

  10. Lakabux says:

    M27…And if they mention it at all, the newsguy/gal will simply state something along the line of: “…devout xtian” or “Deeply religious” never that the killer was a “Crazy Evangelical doing what his version of god told him to do” or “Brainwashed Shiite carrying out the imagined orders of his version of a god!” Until other believers start calling a spade a spade, this is just going to get worse.

    *Oh, and Martin_z: I am not a barman, nor do I play one on TV, but I laughed anyway!

    **Speaking of which: A Priest, a Rabbi, & an Imam walk into a bar. Bartender looks up & sez: “What is this, a joke?”

    I’ll just grab my coat…

  11. Donn says:

    Was religion the catalyst, behind that suicide bombing? It’s a theory, but … Looking at, the story I see is a 12 June article that mentions possible Islamic State connections, relatives in Libya. Anyone reading that is bound to have some notion that religion plays a significant role in that scene, but there aren’t reportable facts concerning that relationship. Even if it were “obvious”, and it isn’t – we might note that there are other parts of the world where people believe that stuff and are not particularly known for blowing themselves up. I find BBC not guilty of the charge.

  12. william loughner says:

    Jesus and Mo are walking down the street. Mo walks into a bar but Jesus ducks.

  13. Rrr says:

    According to so far uncorroborated info, the controversial artist Lars Vilks was killed this evening in an automobile crash on E4 when the car he was travelling in collided with a truck of some kind. Two police officers accompanying him also perished.

    Vilks has been under police protection for many years after he published some cartoons and placed “roundabout dogs” that were said to depict a prophet.

  14. Rrr says:

    Link to Swedish tv news:

    Apparently both vehicles burned and the truck driver is seriously injured and in hospital. The arterial road was closed for several hours.

  15. Son of Glenner says:

    Rrr: Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I cannot read Swedish. No doubt the news will soon filter through to UK media. In the meantime, there ought to be information about Lars Vilks on Wikipedia, which I look forward to reading.

    I don’t suppose any readers of J&M will be praying for the repose of the souls of Lars and the two police officers, and for the recovery of the trucker, but I’m sure we shall all be saddened by this event.

    Author – please take great care when you are travelling on the motorways – we would not want to lose you in the same way.

  16. Rrr says:

    A few more details have come out:
    It was a “civilian” car but armoured so quite heavy, 4.5 tons. That could explain how it crossed a wire barrier over to the opposing lanes. Those are only intended to nudge back a vehicle crossing the center line with minimal damage imposed from its protection, and to hinder overtaking; so called 2-1 roads are common in Sweden due to the lower cost than a fully separated motorway. Speed limit is reportedly 110 km/h at the location.

    Another police car was following, but too far behind to see the actual incident. Those police were of course first on scene.

    Some rubber fragments have been found which might be related, but as a personal protection vehicle it had “puncture safe” tyres, so unlikely to have been a blowout.
    Police and prosecutors are working with forensics to exclude external causes, but so far nothing points to any such being the case. The guards had undergone advanced driving training and had been working with Vilks for years.

    Investigations are being made under the title of unlawful death, manslaughter or murder, if only in order to warrant a search for tele-evidence.

    All Swedish police stations flag at half mast today and a silent moment was to be observed at noon.

    Agree that Author should be a little extra vigilant and careful — after all it cannot be excluded that foul play was involved since Vilks lived under a death threat and had police protection since 2010. At least once someone attacked him at home with an axe.

    Too many people lack the humour or self-distance to appreciate funny cartoons. Sad.

  17. Rrr says:

    Just one wild speculation:
    Pictures show a wet road. Speed limit is 110. One witness said they were overtaken just before the crash.

    Possibly the party was going way too fast for circumstances and lost control in the curve?

    Or in other words: Act of God? So unnecessary, anyway.

  18. M27Holts says:

    Donn. Are you suggesting that the geezer (who was known to be linked to a lot of fundamentalist nutters and also went to a mosque) immolated himself because he didn’t like Ariand Grande? Or perhaps he just wanted to kill himself spectacularly to get some post suicide column inches? Or perhaps he was a serial killing psychopath in a hurry? Another hand wringing liberal trying to justify his brutal act of mindless violence are you Donn?

  19. Son of Glenner says:

    M27Holts: I think you are misunderstanding/misrepresenting Donn’s comments.

    I took him to mean that not all muslims are homicidal maniacs like the Manchester bomber. Having met one or two ordinary muslims who are just ordinary people living ordinary lives, I don’t see that as an unreasonable statement. In the USA, school massacres are sadly not uncommon; the killers are usually christians, at least nominally.

  20. M27Holts says:

    I thought he was justifying the attack as a legitimate retaliation for transgressions by western powers against muslim countries. I have heard that political argument used in pubs not far from the atrocity, usually by know-nowt student types….

  21. M27Holts says:

    And in a country where the numbers of assault weapons exceeds the population…what do you expect from killer apes with machine guns…


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