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Discussion (21)¬

  1. Trevor H says:


    Nice one ‘Author’

  2. Vanity Unfair says:

    I usually end up shouting, “…in a closed system and life ends in decay.” Perhaps I shall try this next time.

  3. botanist says:

    Umm, the ‘last’ link takes me to last week and not this one. From last week’s after refreshing and from the very first one.
    Which is a shame as this is a really good one!

  4. cjsm says:

    My usual response is: Gee, then I guess dinner is going to be room temp – soup, ice cream, and all. Then when I get the expected, huh? I explain about open and closed systems. At which point they usually demonstrate all the signs of a brain freeze.

  5. Another example: sugar water evaporating, leaving beautiful sugar crystals. Order from disorder.

  6. Son of Glenner says:

    A lovely old chestnut, easily refuted by Vanity Unfair and cjsm, so I don’t need to.

    Does a circular argument, so beloved of unsophisticated apologists, count as a closed system?
    Or just a closed mind?

  7. Laripu says:

    “Snowflake” is seen as an insult, implying that such people see themselves as specially different, and consequently demand special treatment. There are certainly people like that.

    But the appellation “snowflake” is an apt one for people in general, and should not be seen as an insult. Everyone is indeed different, and the number of differences between individual people greatly exceeds the differences between snowflakes.

    Should people be treated differently? Of course, in many regards. You don’t give life sentences for jaywalking, or punish murderers with parking tickets. You don’t hand out a PhD to a near-illiterate. Differences in treatment are everywhere for good reason. The bad behaviour to which “snowflake” alludes is the rude insistent demand for unearned beneficial treatment.

    Rudeness ought to be a capital crime. 🙂

  8. Chiefy says:

    This one made me chuckle.

    I would agree, Laripu, except that execution is very rude, so it creates some circularity.

  9. tfkreference says:

    Great wordplay! “Snowflakes” came to mind as as I read the first two panels, but I didn’t consider the double entendre until the barmaid said it.

    BTW: I’ve always interpreted “snowflake” as meaning fragile, easily melted. They’re far from unique (and rightwingnuts are the most fragile of them all).

  10. Ladyduckpojok says:

    Oh this is good!!!

  11. Paul Seed says:

    Vanity Unfair: How about
    “The entropy restriction is so strong that evolution can only possibly take place while there is an external energy source [1], and for a limited amount of time [2], and is not guaranteed then”.

    External energy source: The sun
    Limited amount of time: As long as the sun sets in the West.
    Not guaranteed: We are waiting to hear from other planets.

  12. Paul Seed says:

    Botanist: also, last week’s cartoon does not have a “Next” link, which makes it look like the most recengt.

  13. M27Holts says:

    Anyway, if evolution was proved to be false….it would not suddenly make creationism true….the numbnuts just haven’t got enough intelligence to comprehend even simple logic examples…

  14. Vanity Unfair says:

    To Paul Seed
    Because it has nine words of more than two syllables?
    That’s unfair; people who honestly believe the impossibility of evolution have, usually, not had the laws of thermodynamics properly explained to them, either. I can supply the fuller theory if asked. “What do you mean?”
    The key is timing; a short assertion is met with a short rebuttal and a longer discourse is held in reserve as necessary. No, it does not always work.

  15. Laripu says:

    Whether or not the universe itself is a thermodynamically closed system is not known with certainty. It certainly looks like entropy is increasing right now, and from the observations we’ve been making for something like 1*10^-8 of the age of the universe. This is a very short time for drawing conclusions about a system which has been active and will remain active for many billions of years.

    After all, when the universe is viewed as a system, it must be viewed in the entirety of time. We can predict simple missile trajectories reasonably well, but so far, we’re pretty bad at predicting complicated future events, even those a few years ahead.

    We are arrogant and ignorant chimps.

  16. Son of Glenner says:

    Laripu: I resent being classified with the nasty, argumentative, patriarchal, chimps. I would prefer to be associated with the peace-loving, co-operative, matriarchal, bonobos from the other side of the Congo river!

  17. Laripu says:

    Son of Glenner, it’s a free country. If you’re transprimate, then I support your mammal rights. You do you.

  18. M27Holts says:

    Son of…G. the bonobos use sex as their primary social cement…that probably makes them closer to homo sapiens, since a lot of my friends would shag the crack of dawn, if they could bail their swedes early enough…?

  19. Laripu says:

    Today I’m seeing numerous errors on this web page. Does anyone else see them?

    I’ve emailed Author screenshots of them.

  20. Son of Glenner says:

    “Notice: Undefined variable …”

    Theistic trolls?

  21. Son of Glenner says:

    They all disappeared as soon as I submitted my comment.


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