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  1. CosmicStargoat says:


  2. Tom S. Fox says:

    Well, some of us.

  3. Michael says:

    Nice circularity!

    (One of the 80% not from Cincinnati. Actually from England. But in NZ.)

  4. Intelligent Designer says:

    Jesus is behaving quite promiscuously, ain’t he?

  5. Ellie says:

    Knew I was justified in think teleologically about this strip.

  6. Ellie says:

    ….thinking…. (oops – should do more of it!)

  7. Nassar Ben Houdja says:

    My goodness what precocious prodigy
    Study the subject of teleology
    From the mouths of babes
    come no unbelieving raves
    For that they must age and learn technology.

  8. DataJack says:

    That’s pretty effing funny. One of the best, actually.

  9. Tony B says:

    can someone send a copy to John C Lennox who has kept us amused recently with this argument.

    regards to all J&M fans out there

  10. FreeFox says:

    @Atomizer: Thanks for the link. Love the whole series. The man has a magnificent voice and lovely poetic way of telling the great tale. (The music is sometimes a bit overly melodramatic.)

  11. Postman says:

    This would be even funnier if there weren’t a metric shit-ton of gawd-botherers out there who would find Jesus’ statement perfectly valid.

  12. lakabux says:

    @Postman: Apologies, but that is exactly what makes this strip so fscking funny!

  13. kiyaroru says:

    love them!

  14. David B says:

    I wonder if this strip is inspired by a piece in WEIT that someone linked to on my favourite discussion board.

    I’ve just shoved a link to the J&M strip in the thread, anyway.

    David B

  15. my brain changed gears without a pardigm shift! owie owie owie

    author, your ability being able to comprehend godbot think to be able to so accurately represent them amazes me

  16. Necessary Evil says:

    What’s the difference between ignorance and apathy?

    I don’t know and I don’t care!

  17. Joe Fogey says:

    A gem, if I may say so.

  18. @David B Thanks for that link. Great analysis of the idea that pervasive implies permanent. By that thinking, it’s incorrect to prevent people from owning slaves.
    @Author. You did it again, but I’m worried that God created you for that purpose. Not.

  19. HaggisForBrains says:

    @ DH – Good luck with the San Francisco debate – no need for Occam’s Razor on this question (Sorry!)

    I just picked this up from David Gamble at

    “If homeopathy is real, then dumping Osama bin Laden’s corpse in the ocean has just cured the world of terrorism.”

    He doesn’t know who said this but I think it’s brilliant, and worth sharing.

  20. Speaking of homeopathy, a group called EMF Refugees is spreading panic following the nuclear meltdown in Japan, and promoting a homeopathic cure for radiation sickness. Seriously. Big sciency sounding words and everything.

  21. orange_utan says:

    David B – interesting link, do you think the Templeton Foundation would fund a study to look in to the evolutionary roots and benefits of teleology? possibly?

  22. RichardSRussell says:

    I think I have free will because, really, what choice do I have?

  23. @Haggisforbrains

    wonder what we could cure the world of if George W Bush was dumped in right after bin ladin?

  24. Jude says:

    I tried to weigh the possibility of having the perfect world in a selfish reality of indoctrinations But i couldn’t find an exit But to master the art of selfishness

  25. sweetpityfulmercy says:

    @Postman. Of COURSE Jesus’s statement is valid. Jesus said it!

  26. Jude says:

    Whatever i wrote yesterday was the after party effect . It was the spirit of sir johnny walker incarnated in me

  27. HaggisForBrains says:

    @ random ntrygg – Mrs Brains says “stupidity”. I don’t know if there is enough dilution in all the oceans for it to work.

  28. HaggisForBrains says:

    @ Atomizer – Great link, many thanks. I could listen to Carl Sagan forever. My idea of heaven, and a lot better than having to deflower 72 virgins (maybe I’m just too old, but it sounds like awfully hard work to me).

    I’ve had to update my spell-check, which wants to change Sagan to Satan or Pagan ;-).

  29. HaggisForBrains says:

    @ Author – How about a cartoon of the real Mo, rather than his body double, for “Let’s Draw Mohammed Day”?

  30. Atomizer says:

    Thanks for the brilliant quote, I just dropped off my chair laughing.

  31. @HaggisForBrains

    I was hoping that if they were both dumped at opposite ends of the world, then they could be curing fantacism

    but, that’s too much to hope for, apparently

  32. Suido says:

    Big grins are so we can be amused.

  33. Congratulations everybody. We survived the Rapture. Again. Now there’s your proof that prayer works. We should all find a Christian and thank them.

  34. Rieux says:

    Aw, man—no cartoon for Everybody Draw Muhammad Day?

    Et tu, J&M? Et TU?

  35. HaggisForBrains says:

    Ah, but maybe they’ve all mysteriously disappeared…

    Chance would be a fine thing!

  36. Crimson Cross says:

    I was made for the purpose of making this post

  37. Atomizer says:

    Sad another “rapture day” passes without anything eventful:

  38. Jude says:

    We need to change the arab mentality. Nothing will change it But google

  39. Meaning says:

    Reckon this is my favourite J&M comic so far.

    Have any of you guys given serious thought to the idea that “supernatural” might only mean “beyond our current understanding of what is natural” ?

  40. @ Meaning

    No, because there is a lot that is beyond our ability to see, hear, taste and otherwise sense and it is wholly natural

    Humans can only directly observe a small part of the spectrum of existance, and it’s entirely unhelpful and overly humancentric to define natural as what we can perceieve, given our biological limitiation

    supernatural is anything outside of nature, not that which is currently unexplainable given our understanding of nature

    not that we understand everything in nature, but, even the boundaries of what is nature is connected or arises from what we understand nature to be

  41. Meaning says:

    @ Ntrygg

    I agree with your statements. Given that there is so much of nature that is beyond our observational and comprehensional abilities, what I’m wondering is why we must consider “God” to be supernatural. What’s to prevent “God” from being something wholly natural which we do not understand?

  42. Konradius says:

    ” Speaking of homeopathy, a group called EMF Refugees is spreading panic following the nuclear meltdown in Japan, and promoting a homeopathic cure for radiation sickness. Seriously. Big sciency sounding words and everything.”

    That’s brilliant! A homeopathic cure for a near homeopathic problem!

  43. Atomizer says:

    It is entirely possible for something like “God” to be present in the details, that we have not understood. But what is nearly impossible is what God has been made to be, namely a anthropomorphic agent of our everyday matters. I reckon what you might be getting to could be described as Einstein’s God.

  44. Meaning says:

    Thanks for that. I certainly have great trouble with anthropomorphising God — it doesn’t make sense to me at all. What I have discovered is that by working with the conception I have, which must necessarily be compatible with scientific discovery, must be revised as I learn more stuff, and doesn’t have to be a complete explanation, faith in God isn’t all that difficult. I can then focus on what I see as the point of religion: personal practice and learning how to be a better human.

  45. barb says:

    Why does it remind me of the classic Futurama lines: “Professor we cant swallow that!” – – “Good news! It’s a suppository!”


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