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He’s just trying to understand, Jesus.

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  1. Laripu says:

    Can’t J & M afford a flat screen television. And what’s with the rabbit ears antenna? Mo’s got what appears to be a game controller for the TV. What’s he playing, Pacman?

    With all the donations and tithing, surely they could get 75″ wall mounted television, where they could watch The Passion of the Christ and some Al Qaeda throat cutting videos … in living colour. 🙁

  2. Oozoid says:

    Best one this year so far!

  3. Derek Schneider says:

    This is one of my absolute favorite J & M strips yet! I love a good laugh to start my day!

  4. M27Holts says:

    Pity the religious nuts don’t try giving up oxygen for lent…

  5. rebecca says:

    its going to be hard not bringing this up at family easter

  6. Vittal says:

    Always struck me that Jesus sacrificed himself in much the same way that my bank is sacrificing its money to give me a mortgage – i.e. not at all.

    Apparently, Jesus went from an impoverished labourer/magic-man living in something of a hovel to working at the right-hand of God and literally living in heaven. Rather than a sacrifice, I’d describe that as an arduous relocation to a new and better job.

  7. CliffB says:

    I think comments on Mo’s TV are misplaced. I think he is very well set up technology-wise for someone stuck in the Middle Ages.

    One wonders if the name of Lent comes from the fact that, as with many other Christian celebrations (such as wassail and Easter), it was lent to them by the pagans.

  8. Chris says:

    Religion is SO complicated.

    I guess we’re not smart enough to understand…

  9. M27Holts says:

    However, If Jesus really existed (he didn’t) he was crucified on a particular day in the julian calendar. But the xtian celebration of him being nailed to a tree is a moving (lunar based) event! Another proof that its all made up bollox!

  10. Len says:

    @CliffB: if Christians got it from pagans, then it should be called Stole.

  11. CliffB says:

    Nah. A stole is what priests wear to commemorate all the tithes they took from the people over the centuries.

  12. MartyArtie says:

    I keep asking Christians about this – “how did Jesus ‘die for us’ when he didn’t actually die, and he couldn’t die anyway because he was the son of god?'” Not one has ever given me an answer.

  13. Someone says:

    Jesus died for our sins. Humans continue to sin. Therefore, his sacrifice was pointless.
    This is a thought I’ve been carrying since I was maybe 10 and I have seen nothing in either religious ranting or basic human nature to convince me otherwise. If anything, it has only kept me on the godless path.

  14. Martin_z says:

    “I keep asking Christians about this – “how did Jesus ‘die for us’ when he didn’t actually die, and he couldn’t die anyway because he was the son of god?’” Not one has ever given me an answer.”

    To be honest, if the Christians you have asked have not been able to answer this one, you’ve not asked many serious Christians.

    I’m not a Christian, but even I know the answer to this one. Jesus was actually human, and he did indeed suffer and die on the cross. But as he was also the Son of God, he was resurrected on the third day. Christians consider Easter to be the most important and fundamental part of the whole Christian calendar – when they consider seriously the agony that Jesus went through. And the words “suffer” and “agony” are quite serious – crucifixion is a pretty appalling way to die.

    This is actually pretty fundamental to Christian belief, and if I think about it, I can understand why Christians might get quite offended at jokes like this one.

    (Nevertheless, I laughed.)

  15. Troubleshooter says:

    How many times have we heard it? Jesus had a bad weekend for your sins!

    Someone please tell me what kind of lame “sacrifice” is that???

  16. M27Holts says:

    “Jesus was actually human” is a meaningless statement, since in all probability, Jesus was as real as Sherlock Holmes. The latest theory was that the Jesus myth was a political construct used by the Romans to control the potentially rebellious peoples of the middle east. Its as convincing a theory as I have considered and a far more likely historial fact than the bible dogma!

  17. Walter says:

    RE:Trouble Shooter

    Not “Bad Weekend” more like a “Bad Sabbath. He was only out from late Friday to Early Sunday. Crucifixion is painful, no doubt, but at least its a quick death.

  18. Troubleshooter says:

    “Quick,” Walter? The way I’ve heard it, those crucified could hang there for days before the body quit working. Supposedly, Jesus went quicker because some Roman guard stabbed him in the side, but that amounts to one fable piled on another.

    But yeah, if Friday to Sunday is three days, I’ll eat a hat I’m not wearing!

  19. HelenaHandbasket says:

    Troubleshooter: Well, at least it gets you out in the open air…

  20. M27Holts says:

    Trouble shooter. A strong man could last quite a while before their body weight asphixiates them. Usually the legs were broken to acceletate the death of the crucified victim…The Romans used an X shaped scaffold, another historical inacuracy that is definately “false news”…

  21. Donn says:

    The church is like mom & dad trying to lay on the guilt trip. “After all I’ve done for you …”

    As far as the before/after on sin, my vague recollection is that the deal changed because of the sacrifice, which perhaps would have made sense at the time because of the practice of using sacrifices to make deals with deities; it was like “I’ll show you, I’ll sort of sacrifice myself! They’ll be scratching their heads over this for centuries!” I suppose that stunt also served to emphasize the break with the Jewish tribal god. Anyway, the status of human sinfulness is supposed to be changed, though maybe just for believers.

  22. M27Holts says:

    Whatever way theologians try to package the tripe that is the xtian canon, it is merely deckchair shifting on the deck of the titanic. If you want to beleive that a mythical nazarene died for your sins then get on with it, but don’t complain that some batshit muslims have just blown up some local kids because you’re part of the problem not the solution…

  23. Anonymous says:

    Re: TroubleShooter

    Quick, compared to how most people die. There is metabolic syndrome, COPD, LUPUS etcetera, etcetera where you die over a period of years. With COPD, for example, you drown over a period of decades.

    And then there is dementia in all its negative glory. Truly a living death. And cancer , of curse.

  24. Walter says:

    RE:HelenaHandbasket

    And you can sing “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life.” or “What a Friend We Have in Cheeses.”

  25. Walter says:

    RE: Some 1

    But the other way of looking at it is, if Jesus died for our sins we should make his death worthwhile.

  26. steve gallacci says:

    I always though the whole crucifition/resserection was a cheap hook and obscured what I think his real intent was- some kind of enlightened moral agency for everyone. But that was a hard sell and meant that things would actually have to change. So much easier to have a dramatic gesture, martyrs and all that, don’t make waves and get your payoff in Heaven. No one has to deliver on the promise.

  27. Someone says:

    So George Pell only gets six years for sexual abuse. Seems a small period of life to give up after ruining the lives of several families and without a goddamn shred of remorse.

  28. M27Holts says:

    ^ aye since he will probably be a free man in less than three years…what else do we expect from a broken legal system…

  29. Son of Glenner says:

    M27Holts: Why do you think the Australian legal system is broken?

  30. M27Holts says:

    SOG. All legal systems are biased towards the offender, usually for fiscal, rather than society protection reasons. I just read about Scotlands most prolific serial killer. He raped and killed his first victim, a little girl and served just SIX years before the hang wringing liberals let him out…he then went on a killing spree. Killing at least four more women and maybe as many as twelve….whoever made the decision to let that dangerous lunatic out was definately part of a broken legal system…

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