I love your strip; I wish I remember how I heard of it. The eps since you got back have been truly excellent. I side with the barmaid but, what is so good, is that Jesus and even Mo are rather sweet and sympathetic.
A true athiest is perfectly sure that their knowledge of there being no higher power. A true believer in a faith has a similar certanty of there being a higher power. I think that atheism and false religon are simply the certainty of God but misdirected.
See Souldier, there ya go putting words in atheists mouths again… now I as an atheist can’t rule out the possibility that there’s a god. I just think it’s incredibly unlikely. I mean really totally incredibly unlikely.
Agnostic- one who does not know.
Atheist- one who does not believe in theos (deities).
An agnostic professes that they do not know whether or not there is a god.
An atheist denies the existance of a god.
Saying that one does not believe in a God, but one is open to evidence to the contrary, makes one an atheist to my mind.
Saying that one cannot be convinced by evidence, is closed minded and unscientific.
Since I happen to believe that there will be no evidence that I cannot demostrate to be the result of flawed methology or experimental confounds, it really makes no difference though.
I agree with tim… it is extremely unlikely that there is a god… u can’t disprove that there is a god just as u can’t disprove the flying spaghetti monster or the juju at the bottom of the sea or the flying teapot in outer space.
Most agnostics live their lives as if there were no gods. From a practical point of view they are atheists.
Tim and LQ are representatives of most who call themselves atheists. They allow that in the unlikely chance that a god should manifest itself with real evidence of its existence, then belief would be necessary.
From this perspective, I find it curious to watch debates between agnostics and atheists as to which is right.
For some, it is that the label atheist is too unpleasant, given all the efforts to demonise it by the religious.
I would certainly classify my own views under the first heading. I have some problems with the second, though it seems a more plausible thing to believe than any of the alternatives. Maybe I’m on the atheist side of agnosticism, maybe I’m on the agnostic side of atheism. Does it really matter?
I do feel, however, that if there is a supreme being out there, and if He gives a damn about whether I believe in Him or not, He’d have DONE something about it by now.
And no, getting Himself nailed to a tree 2000 years ago doesn’t count.
TO A strong atheist, or a naturalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_(philosophy) there is no new evidence, however compelling, that will come along to show that 2 + 2 = 5.
Agnostics say that a God might not exist.
Atheists say that a God does not exist.
I say that a God cannot exist.
Nothing is immune to scientific enquiry. If God is outside the realm of scientific study, then God is irrelevant. If a superhuman entity is amenable to study, I wouldn’t call that particular being a God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theological_noncognitivism The question of falsifiability also remains. Some non-theists continue to have that primitive image of a bearded male human in their heads, and they cannot shake it away. By failing to actively consider the definition and origins of God, they close themselves to scientific thought and go with the popular, politically correct view of agnosticism or doubtful atheism.
Anyway, a great comic that is very much needed. I now have another 150 excellent URIs to silence cheerfully deluded people wherever I go.
I’m not sure why some people here think that atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive.
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August 14th, 2006 at 7:41 am
Yep, my sentiments exactly!
August 16th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Awesome, you rule!!
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August 20th, 2006 at 11:05 am
I love your strip; I wish I remember how I heard of it. The eps since you got back have been truly excellent. I side with the barmaid but, what is so good, is that Jesus and even Mo are rather sweet and sympathetic.
January 8th, 2007 at 9:53 am
A true athiest is perfectly sure that their knowledge of there being no higher power. A true believer in a faith has a similar certanty of there being a higher power. I think that atheism and false religon are simply the certainty of God but misdirected.
January 13th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
See Souldier, there ya go putting words in atheists mouths again… now I as an atheist can’t rule out the possibility that there’s a god. I just think it’s incredibly unlikely. I mean really totally incredibly unlikely.
January 16th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Tim, by definition, that makes you an Agnostic, not an Atheist, yes?
January 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Agnostic- one who does not know.
Atheist- one who does not believe in theos (deities).
An agnostic professes that they do not know whether or not there is a god.
An atheist denies the existance of a god.
Saying that one does not believe in a God, but one is open to evidence to the contrary, makes one an atheist to my mind.
Saying that one cannot be convinced by evidence, is closed minded and unscientific.
Since I happen to believe that there will be no evidence that I cannot demostrate to be the result of flawed methology or experimental confounds, it really makes no difference though.
April 8th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
I agree with tim… it is extremely unlikely that there is a god… u can’t disprove that there is a god just as u can’t disprove the flying spaghetti monster or the juju at the bottom of the sea or the flying teapot in outer space.
May 1st, 2007 at 10:40 am
Most agnostics live their lives as if there were no gods. From a practical point of view they are atheists.
Tim and LQ are representatives of most who call themselves atheists. They allow that in the unlikely chance that a god should manifest itself with real evidence of its existence, then belief would be necessary.
From this perspective, I find it curious to watch debates between agnostics and atheists as to which is right.
For some, it is that the label atheist is too unpleasant, given all the efforts to demonise it by the religious.
May 29th, 2007 at 3:04 am
I think it depends on what you mean by atheism:
Absence of belief in any God.
Belief in the absence of any Gods.
I would certainly classify my own views under the first heading. I have some problems with the second, though it seems a more plausible thing to believe than any of the alternatives. Maybe I’m on the atheist side of agnosticism, maybe I’m on the agnostic side of atheism. Does it really matter?
I do feel, however, that if there is a supreme being out there, and if He gives a damn about whether I believe in Him or not, He’d have DONE something about it by now.
And no, getting Himself nailed to a tree 2000 years ago doesn’t count.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:32 pm
In the unlikely event that anyone reads this I felt I should add my two cents:
Atheist: A person who lacks a belief in god.
Agnostic: an atheist who lacks balls/ovaries/gonads.
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:24 am
TO A strong atheist, or a naturalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_(philosophy) there is no new evidence, however compelling, that will come along to show that 2 + 2 = 5.
Agnostics say that a God might not exist.
Atheists say that a God does not exist.
I say that a God cannot exist.
Nothing is immune to scientific enquiry. If God is outside the realm of scientific study, then God is irrelevant. If a superhuman entity is amenable to study, I wouldn’t call that particular being a God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theological_noncognitivism The question of falsifiability also remains. Some non-theists continue to have that primitive image of a bearded male human in their heads, and they cannot shake it away. By failing to actively consider the definition and origins of God, they close themselves to scientific thought and go with the popular, politically correct view of agnosticism or doubtful atheism.
Anyway, a great comic that is very much needed. I now have another 150 excellent URIs to silence cheerfully deluded people wherever I go.
February 29th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I’m not sure why some people here think that atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive.