update

August 17th, 2022

Wishing Salman Rushdie a speedy recovery.

In the meantime, this is worth a read.

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Discussion (15)¬

  1. Vanity Unfair says:
    August 17, 2022 at 5:41 pm

    Ah! The enthusiasm of the recent convert.

  2. Bvereshagen says:
    August 17, 2022 at 6:06 pm

    I posit that within a repressive and all controlling religion encouraging the rubes to work themselves into a homicidal frenzy over any perceived “blasphemy” serves the same purpose as the “five minutes of hate” in Orwell’s 1984: it reinforces cohesion amongst the true believers while threatening everyone else into silent submission.

  3. Rrr says:
    August 17, 2022 at 7:33 pm

    That is astute, Bv. Sect-core in a nutshell, so to speak.

  4. jveeds says:
    August 17, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    brilliant observation…and timely. And it’s quite ironic that Rushdie was attacked in one of the most peaceful, peaceable, bucolic nether regions of upstate NY — Chautauqua, home of literary, musical and fine arts events for 150 years.

  5. M27Holts says:
    August 19, 2022 at 8:41 am

    Are there any peaceful areas in a country where your average citizen has more assault equipment than a waffen SS panzer-grenadier?

  6. Choirboy says:
    August 20, 2022 at 11:23 am

    Nazis invoked. Argument lost then?
    I notice social media celebrating the 75th birthday of Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) and the BBC promoting his latest warblings on the radio. His suborning of the death of Rushdie on TV is still available on YouTube, where Fay Weldon demanded his arrest by a senior police officer who was present.
    He clearly states that a burning effigy should be replaced by, ‘ the real thing’, that the author should be killed and that if he were in a Muslim country he would obey the fatwa personally to murder him.
    A while ago I complained to the Beeb about Islam’s stuff being promoted and was told that his songs were ‘popular’. While the works of Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris get few airings nowadays for obvious reasons it seems that publicly suborning murder is just fine and good old ‘Cat’ warbles on untouched.

  7. Laripu says:
    August 20, 2022 at 12:59 pm

    We know that he’s British, but of Greek and Swedish origin. His name at birth was Steven Demetre Georgiou. When I was a child, there was a rumor going around was that he was Jewish and that his real name was Steven Katz. We couldn’t have been more wrong.

    (M27, let’s have no more argument about the missing ‘u’, or I’ll have to reproduce my last post from the previous J&M.)

    In the article below, Yusuf Islam says he never supported the fatwa. I don’t believe him.
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/27/yusuf-cat-stevens-desert-island-discs-islam-fatwa-playing-guitar

  8. Rrr says:
    August 20, 2022 at 5:55 pm

    ISTR – but may well misremember – that said Yusuf Cat is actually from Norway.
    No great difference perhaps.

  9. Laripu says:
    August 21, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    This is what’s running for office in the United States:

    https://www.tapinto.net/towns/hamilton-slash-robbinsville/sections/elections/articles/hamilton-school-board-candidate-says-he-will-be-judge-jury-and-executioner-then-drops-out-of-race

    I have a hard time imagining that such people exist. He’s either incredibly stupid, or else so morally vacant that he’s happy to take advantage of fools no matter who it hurts.

    As I often say: The moral standing of a people is in direct proportion to how well they ignore the worst parts of their religious religious texts.

  10. Arun says:
    August 22, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    To my knowledge, blasphemy against Allah is tolerated. Blasphemy against the Prophet is absolutely not tolerated, and any such can throw even the mild-mannered into a rage.

    All I can think of is that the entire edifice rests on one’s belief in the veracity and high character of the Prophet, and therefore any aspersion cannot be tolerated.

  11. M27Holts says:
    August 22, 2022 at 5:13 pm

    For some unknown reason the BBC do seem to have a problem when confronted with islamic intolerance. I few reporters have lost their jobs when calling out islamist nutters, and as for woke left wing nutters, I almost got lynched once when equating the quran with mein kampf even though that immediately loses the argument via the arbitrary mention of Nazi Germanyas somebody sited earlier…haha

  12. M27Holts says:
    August 22, 2022 at 5:34 pm

    I’m suprised that slip on shoes aren’t more in demand when a lot of American citizens clearly lack the brains to tie shoe laces never mind follow an adult argument…

  13. Donn says:
    August 22, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    The story I heard, from a guy proselytizing on the sidewalk back in the ’70s, is that you can say what you want about Jesus or anyone – anyone but the Holy Ghost. Blaspheme the Holy Ghost and you’re doomed, nothing to be done about it.

  14. M27Holts says:
    August 24, 2022 at 2:33 pm

    Proselytizing on the sidewalk….the dirty bastard! Haha

  15. OtterBe says:
    October 3, 2022 at 11:28 pm

    Glad to see the boys: got ‘500 Internal Server Error’ on 2 separate devices a few minutes ago. Automatically assumed Black Hats to blame. Happy it’s not permanent.

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