It’s at least good to know that JC spells ‘humour’ correctly. As the wise woman in the Bible Belt said, ‘If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me’.
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” – Will Rogers
Humor is most conspicuous in its absence, as is the case with the current American president
Where has M27Holts got off to?
You could set your clock by his appearances here.
And he would clean your clock (as in Hitchslap) as needed if you spouted cockamamie schpiel at the Cock & Bull.
Barmaid, I will pay his bill if he is in arrears.
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” – Will Rogers
Humor is most conspicuous in its absence, as is the case with the current American president
Where has M27Holts got off to?
You could set your clock by his appearances here.
And he would clean your clock (as in Hitchslap) as needed if you spouted cockamamie spiel at the Cock & Bull.
Barmaid, I will pay his bill if he is in arrears.
It’s like the blasphemy police have come and swept up all the ususal suspects.
Once my brain-stem is no longer functional I will cease to exist as a sentient being. However, the baryons that make up my coporeal body will still exist for a long long time after my death. But they will be in the same multiverse version as I am now, I don’t think those same Baryons will be reconstistuted into me being in a fantasy place thought up by any religious sponk sponges….
arbeyu just invoked eternal religious war. Hold my beer.
WHICH Muslim hell (out of several)?
And WHICH Christian hell (out of hundreds only counting Baptists)?
Theologists all demand answers – and they each push for a different one. Or else.
Anyway, that’s my take on the matter. Leaving pull-pit now. Thank you for your attention.
Shamefully ignorant on this point, I had to look it up. I had the impression modern Christianity is kind of playing down the Hell thing, but see no mention of that in the wikipedia article. But did see this interesting item:
Multiple gnostic Christians, such as the Cathars, interpreted hell as a metaphor for this flawed, material world in which human souls have become entrapped. Later writers influenced by the gnostic worldview, such as Milton and Blake, interpreted it differently. In The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, William Blake is read by certain scholars as implying that hell is similar to heaven, or even preferable to it in terms of being a state in which creative impulses are allowed free rein outside the domination of society, which prefers the limitations of heaven.
M27, were it not for your reference to sponk sponges, I’d have thought you to be an LLM (Large Language Model) robot of sorts that didn’t know jack-shit about vernacular (Mank in particular). I am sorry to see you wear the same sponk wangle star as me. Us sponkers must go on to form a solidarity. Think Spider Robinson’s “Callahan’s Cross Time Saloon”, where the regulars convene for pun Sunday.
I don’t care if you steal some bloke’s rhymes off the loo wall. They all go into the record somewhere, to someone or other’s detriment.
Think of it. We are now recognized as living meat bags of nerves and gristle.
A request to the barmaid, “I’ll have a
Bierbitzch.
@Donn Cave
I have come across the (modern) idea that, instead of going to hell, those who are not “saved” do not get resurrected at all: They die, and that’s it. The “punishment” is to not get to live forever. This is closer to earlier beliefs where, on resurrection day, those who were not chosen would be resurrected only to be destroyed utterly, completely and for all time.
Bart D. Ehrman’s “Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife” is worth a read for a potted history of how the concepts of both have evolved from Jewish to Christian belief.
Bart Simpson is far more fun though. Who the fuck wants to read some post modernist bullshit on the old testament? I can sum it all up in one word. FLATUS! What a waste of time it is to be an expert on religious texts. It has no meaning to anybody who has a working brain in the 21st century…Religious apologist writers are the anal polyps on the alimentary canal of intellectual sagacity….
This blind rejection of history, anthropology and philosophy “because it’s about religion” pisses me off. It’s the kind of Village Atheist idiocy that gets us all a bad name as unthinking ignoramuses.
To be sure, all theology is quite literally nonsense. I’m pretty much with A.J. Ayers on that one.
But the study of belief is fascinating and, moreover, useful. We learn about our own intellectual biases by learning about other’s. I find it fascinating how ancient Jewish beliefs melded with Hellenic beliefs to produce Christian beliefs about souls and the afterlife. I think it important to know what others believe, and why, so that I am armed with the intellectual tools to discuss these things in an adult, thinking manner.
Ehrman is in no sense of the word writing “apologetics”. He writes both scholarly and popular works about the Christian religion, its beliefs and its Book. He does not attempt to influence the reader as to whether those beliefs are correct or incorrect: He describes them, and posits how they arose.
He was a born-again Christian, but through his studies came to realise that the Bible contained contradictions and inaccuracies that could only be explained by its being a work of man. He had the intellectual and academic integrity to change his beliefs in light of the evidence. He is now an agnostic atheist.
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It’s at least good to know that JC spells ‘humour’ correctly. As the wise woman in the Bible Belt said, ‘If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me’.
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” – Will Rogers
Humor is most conspicuous in its absence, as is the case with the current American president
Where has M27Holts got off to?
You could set your clock by his appearances here.
And he would clean your clock (as in Hitchslap) as needed if you spouted cockamamie schpiel at the Cock & Bull.
Barmaid, I will pay his bill if he is in arrears.
“I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” – Will Rogers
Humor is most conspicuous in its absence, as is the case with the current American president
Where has M27Holts got off to?
You could set your clock by his appearances here.
And he would clean your clock (as in Hitchslap) as needed if you spouted cockamamie spiel at the Cock & Bull.
Barmaid, I will pay his bill if he is in arrears.
It’s like the blasphemy police have come and swept up all the ususal suspects.
Sorry for the doublin’. I never knew the net thought of me as an actual, individual person. I am sure I will regret it, though.
Don’t worry, Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated!
If M27Holts did die, do you think that they would got to Muslim hell or Christian hell?
Once my brain-stem is no longer functional I will cease to exist as a sentient being. However, the baryons that make up my coporeal body will still exist for a long long time after my death. But they will be in the same multiverse version as I am now, I don’t think those same Baryons will be reconstistuted into me being in a fantasy place thought up by any religious sponk sponges….
arbeyu just invoked eternal religious war. Hold my beer.
WHICH Muslim hell (out of several)?
And WHICH Christian hell (out of hundreds only counting Baptists)?
Theologists all demand answers – and they each push for a different one. Or else.
Anyway, that’s my take on the matter. Leaving pull-pit now. Thank you for your attention.
Shamefully ignorant on this point, I had to look it up. I had the impression modern Christianity is kind of playing down the Hell thing, but see no mention of that in the wikipedia article. But did see this interesting item:
That Blake story is a new one on me.
M27, were it not for your reference to sponk sponges, I’d have thought you to be an LLM (Large Language Model) robot of sorts that didn’t know jack-shit about vernacular (Mank in particular). I am sorry to see you wear the same sponk wangle star as me. Us sponkers must go on to form a solidarity. Think Spider Robinson’s “Callahan’s Cross Time Saloon”, where the regulars convene for pun Sunday.
I don’t care if you steal some bloke’s rhymes off the loo wall. They all go into the record somewhere, to someone or other’s detriment.
Think of it. We are now recognized as living meat bags of nerves and gristle.
A request to the barmaid, “I’ll have a
Bierbitzch.
@Donn Cave
I have come across the (modern) idea that, instead of going to hell, those who are not “saved” do not get resurrected at all: They die, and that’s it. The “punishment” is to not get to live forever. This is closer to earlier beliefs where, on resurrection day, those who were not chosen would be resurrected only to be destroyed utterly, completely and for all time.
Bart D. Ehrman’s “Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife” is worth a read for a potted history of how the concepts of both have evolved from Jewish to Christian belief.
https://time.com/5822598/jesus-really-said-heaven-hell/
Bart Simpson is far more fun though. Who the fuck wants to read some post modernist bullshit on the old testament? I can sum it all up in one word. FLATUS! What a waste of time it is to be an expert on religious texts. It has no meaning to anybody who has a working brain in the 21st century…Religious apologist writers are the anal polyps on the alimentary canal of intellectual sagacity….
M27, now tell us how you really feel.
This blind rejection of history, anthropology and philosophy “because it’s about religion” pisses me off. It’s the kind of Village Atheist idiocy that gets us all a bad name as unthinking ignoramuses.
To be sure, all theology is quite literally nonsense. I’m pretty much with A.J. Ayers on that one.
But the study of belief is fascinating and, moreover, useful. We learn about our own intellectual biases by learning about other’s. I find it fascinating how ancient Jewish beliefs melded with Hellenic beliefs to produce Christian beliefs about souls and the afterlife. I think it important to know what others believe, and why, so that I am armed with the intellectual tools to discuss these things in an adult, thinking manner.
Ehrman is in no sense of the word writing “apologetics”. He writes both scholarly and popular works about the Christian religion, its beliefs and its Book. He does not attempt to influence the reader as to whether those beliefs are correct or incorrect: He describes them, and posits how they arose.
He was a born-again Christian, but through his studies came to realise that the Bible contained contradictions and inaccuracies that could only be explained by its being a work of man. He had the intellectual and academic integrity to change his beliefs in light of the evidence. He is now an agnostic atheist.