Comments on: roof http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/ Two prophets living together. Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:27:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Walter http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-205549 Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:20:27 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-205549 Moses being able to stand up like that is to show that free will if actual would violate the laws of physics.

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By: Walter http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-205548 Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:15:36 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-205548 There is, however, free willy.

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By: Walter http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-205547 Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:14:00 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-205547 @Terry says:
November 4, 2011 at 3:43 am
Free will is an illusion. You can accept it or reject it. It’s your choice.
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I’m predestined to believe in free will. I can’t help it.

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By: Deliberate http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-192936 Tue, 01 Sep 2015 18:41:01 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-192936 We have free will to make one of two choices – God’s way, or Satan’s way. The illusion is that you believe there is a “Your” way – there isn’t. You got the idea of “Your” way from Satan, in his lie to Eve.

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By: DavidDHH http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-181658 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:38:42 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-181658 I posit that if I don’t have free will, then I don’t really exist in any meaningful way. There are two possible conclusions from this: I do have free will, or the concept of ‘free will’ is just a meaningless noise. I tend to the latter explanation, since it would be hard to rationalize the proposal that a non-existent person wrote this.

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By: The Dude http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-176095 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:24:44 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-176095 @cranker LOL, nice one mate.

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By: Mule Skinner Blue http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-176089 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:00:07 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-176089 My free will is guided by quantum uncertainty. You may know everything about me, but you still can’t predict my behavior. Not only that, but the little part of me that sits back and watches what I do takes credit for it and believes it is exerting the will …

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By: Terry http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175417 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:43:36 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175417 Free will is an illusion. You can accept it or reject it. It’s your choice.

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By: Natalie http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175299 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:25:51 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175299 It’s a question that doesn’t really need an answer. Regardless of whether or not there is “such a thing” as free will, we’re nonetheless required to behave and act as thought there is. I think even asking the question requires investing the concept with a bit more ontological weight than it actually has. Free will is ultimately just about experiencing your choices as choices, and that’s *definitely* true, whether or not we’re simply locked into a chain of cause-and-effect (by God or by the laws of nature).

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By: Jerry w http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175295 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:46:50 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175295 You can’t get a “free will” in the U.S., it’s been outlawed by the American Bar Association as being a “Job Killer”. This is because it would stop volunteer paralegals from taking the brie out of the mouths of lawyers countrywide. Your milage may vary depending on where you’re at, geographically speaking.

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By: Jerry w http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175294 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:46:01 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175294 You can’t get a “free will” in the U.S., it’s been outlawed by the American Bar Association as being a “Job Killer”. This is because it would stop volunteer paralegals from taking the brie out of the mouths of lawyers countrywide. Your milage may vary depending on where you’re at, geographically.

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By: BillyJoe http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175284 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:26:19 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175284 Why would evolution go to all that trouble to get things right just so we could stuff it all up with our freewill?

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By: WV http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175283 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:49:54 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175283 Yes, it’s funny how, on consideration, the concept of (in) determinism seems to be irrelevant to the concept of free wil because the alternative (that our actions are random) doesn’t seem to be free will, either. So it’s either a meaningless concept, or only sort-of an illusion.

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By: FreeFox http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175281 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:57:32 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175281 @Richard: Your nanobot-responsibility-theory would only hold water if you were a closed system. But both on the genetic and on the memetic level you are everything but. You are only the sum of parts that started out as “not-you”.

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By: FreeFox http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175280 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:54:21 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175280 But isn’t it cool that while there really is no sensible definition of the word “free” that makes the phrase “free will” correspond to anything real – in a deterministic universe our will is of course just as pre-determined as apples falling under the influence of gravity – the illusion of free will is absolutely indispensable for us to keep functioning? Even knowing my will is only the effect of a sum of causes, I cannot help but feel free when I make my choices. 😛

@Richard, Matt & Haggis: He might not be omnipotent and un-responsible… but He can bloody well be omnipotent and ir-responsible. Which would actually be a pretty good explanation for 9/11… or the banking crisis… or wars… homophobia… tsunamis… plagues… crabs… the human race… brussel sprouts… and most of the whole mess. ^_^

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By: cranker http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175278 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:59:52 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175278 I think Moses parted the car’s roof.

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By: HaggisForBrains http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175274 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:25:43 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175274 @ Poor Richard –

God cannot be both omnipotent and unresponsible.

Epicurus had the right idea when it came to god’s omnipotence.

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By: Poor Richard http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175271 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:14:39 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175271 I think the question of “free will” is rubbish now. If I define myself as a unique collection of experiences and chunks of flesh and sensations, then let me ask, if it is not I who chooses, then who? Jonathan Edwards used only a milion words to demonstrate that all our choices are influenced by something, so the will is free only if activated by God’s grace. No such help being available, that leaves my choices up to me–the total stuff that is “I.”

Now that we have gotten stupidly to this point, let us remember that we are in the nano-age, and we will soon realize that our choices are made by all these tiny nano-boogers working in unison to make us act or react. If this analysis hasn’t convinced you, I warn you it only gets worse. I conclude that my “will” arises from all those living nanobots that make up “me.” No matter what, “I” will still be forever responsible for what those bits force “me” to do (lol).

After 9/11 I heard several preachers (at memorials for a close family member killed in tower one), when asked why God lets these things happen (thank God I am an atheist), appealed to the “God gave us free will” argument. Sad as I was, I nearly laughed out loud every time I heard this. No wonder the tragedy reawakened the myth of an actual satan walking the world.

God cannot be both omnipotent and unresponsible. So I guess 9/11 is one of his mysterious works. Poor Richard says keep your eyes and ears open and be ready to duck. Read the last lines of “Huckleberry Finn” for good advice on using your feet.

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By: some Matt or other http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175267 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:27:51 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175267 @Suse: Not just in Islam. From Romans chapter 9:

“Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’ What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses, ‘I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.’ It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: ‘I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.’ Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. One of you will say to me: ‘Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?’ But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?’

A lot of Christians don’t take that passage very seriously, but John Calvin was a big fan. Personally, I think the free-will question has little to do with theism in general. A specific religion might make a proclamation about free will, much as religions make proclamations about all sorts of things, but the question in and of itself doesn’t demand any stance on gods.

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By: plortho http://www.jesusandmo.net/comic/roof/#comment-175266 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:49:32 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=2143#comment-175266 “Jeebus, take the wheel!!” (Mo can’t see a damned thing!!) XD

Author, this one took your cartooning to the next level: philosophical hilarity + TWO sight gags. Super!
May I humbly suggest some “roof burst” detail to clarify Moses’ method of attaining a higher plane…
Cheers!

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