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	<description>Two prophets, living together.</description>
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		<title>By: fenchurch</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-175475</link>
		<dc:creator>fenchurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what about the &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; 603 commandments???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what about the <i>other</i> 603 commandments???</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-167436</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;don&#039;t boil a calf in its mother&#039;s milk&quot; is a similar biblical rule to not taking eggs from a mother bird while she is sitting on the nest.  It&#039;s a sensitivity towards not purposely exacerbating what is already a harsh situation - i.e., killing an animal, or taking the issue of an animal, for your eating pleasure.  Although ritual slaughter seems gross, its intent is to minimize the suffering of the animal.  Not saying that everything makes sense, or there isn&#039;t some barbarism in any value system that is millennia old, but the comic is meant as a joke -it&#039;s not meant as an  exegesis on the moral value of kosher laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;don&#8217;t boil a calf in its mother&#8217;s milk&#8221; is a similar biblical rule to not taking eggs from a mother bird while she is sitting on the nest.  It&#8217;s a sensitivity towards not purposely exacerbating what is already a harsh situation &#8211; i.e., killing an animal, or taking the issue of an animal, for your eating pleasure.  Although ritual slaughter seems gross, its intent is to minimize the suffering of the animal.  Not saying that everything makes sense, or there isn&#8217;t some barbarism in any value system that is millennia old, but the comic is meant as a joke -it&#8217;s not meant as an  exegesis on the moral value of kosher laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenoxus</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165834</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenoxus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument that the apparent strangeness of Mosaic laws is irrelevant becauase they&#039;ve been overturned by the New Covenent is absurd. The question remains, &lt;i&gt;Why did God ever issue those laws in the first place&lt;/i&gt;? If we were all Hebrews in ancient Israel, we couldn&#039;t just tell ourselves &quot;Oh, these rules are only meant for some remote desert tribes, not &lt;i&gt;us&lt;/i&gt; in the &lt;i&gt;modern world&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

Why did God ever single out a people to abide by all those cultural practices, sometimes on pain of death, a punishment to be carried out by the people themselves? Not only would getting stoned to death suck, but can you imagine being ordered by God to stone someone to death? It would have been more merciful of him to strike violators with lightning â€” then at least there&#039;d be no ambiguity as to what exactly the law was, and no worried that you might be killing an innocent person.

Some have argued that by piling on the weird and wicked rules, God was &lt;i&gt;trying to send the message&lt;/i&gt; of the futility of keeping the Law, and &quot;paving the way&quot; for Christ&#039;s message of mercy and love. So basically, the laws were one big joke? Or does the creator of a billion galaxies genuinely have a preference for the smell of cooked meat over that of vegetables? And why exactly does it take theologians and interpreters to deliver that answer â€” couldn&#039;t God have simply said it himself? Say, I don&#039;t know, to the gathered Israelites newly freed from Egypt? Because, given the apparent reality of God&#039;s wrath (ten plagues, anyone?) I&#039;m not sure I see how they would figure out it was all a bunch of &quot;metaphors&quot;.

(That said, I don&#039;t think there ever was an exodus, so most of the stuff about worshiping a golden calf, all those conquests, etc, are basically fictional. But that&#039;s irrelevant to the point that they don&#039;t even make &lt;i&gt;internal&lt;/i&gt; sense.)

Some even go so far as to basically say &quot;Well, of course the Bible doesn&#039;t make sense â€” it was written by hundreds of people over thousands of years! It&#039;s not fair to expect it to be a coherent work!&quot; Yet the same people nonetheless call themselves Christians. Strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument that the apparent strangeness of Mosaic laws is irrelevant becauase they&#8217;ve been overturned by the New Covenent is absurd. The question remains, <i>Why did God ever issue those laws in the first place</i>? If we were all Hebrews in ancient Israel, we couldn&#8217;t just tell ourselves &#8220;Oh, these rules are only meant for some remote desert tribes, not <i>us</i> in the <i>modern world</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why did God ever single out a people to abide by all those cultural practices, sometimes on pain of death, a punishment to be carried out by the people themselves? Not only would getting stoned to death suck, but can you imagine being ordered by God to stone someone to death? It would have been more merciful of him to strike violators with lightning â€” then at least there&#8217;d be no ambiguity as to what exactly the law was, and no worried that you might be killing an innocent person.</p>
<p>Some have argued that by piling on the weird and wicked rules, God was <i>trying to send the message</i> of the futility of keeping the Law, and &#8220;paving the way&#8221; for Christ&#8217;s message of mercy and love. So basically, the laws were one big joke? Or does the creator of a billion galaxies genuinely have a preference for the smell of cooked meat over that of vegetables? And why exactly does it take theologians and interpreters to deliver that answer â€” couldn&#8217;t God have simply said it himself? Say, I don&#8217;t know, to the gathered Israelites newly freed from Egypt? Because, given the apparent reality of God&#8217;s wrath (ten plagues, anyone?) I&#8217;m not sure I see how they would figure out it was all a bunch of &#8220;metaphors&#8221;.</p>
<p>(That said, I don&#8217;t think there ever was an exodus, so most of the stuff about worshiping a golden calf, all those conquests, etc, are basically fictional. But that&#8217;s irrelevant to the point that they don&#8217;t even make <i>internal</i> sense.)</p>
<p>Some even go so far as to basically say &#8220;Well, of course the Bible doesn&#8217;t make sense â€” it was written by hundreds of people over thousands of years! It&#8217;s not fair to expect it to be a coherent work!&#8221; Yet the same people nonetheless call themselves Christians. Strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Daoloth</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165216</link>
		<dc:creator>Daoloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don. Thanks for that one. &quot;God isnt my real name- its my stage name&quot;. 
Coffee came out my nose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don. Thanks for that one. &#8220;God isnt my real name- its my stage name&#8221;.<br />
Coffee came out my nose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165175</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve spotted a niche in the labor market for somebody willing to change their name to John Frum.  [This idea is copyright.]

Daoloth: I wonder if the Islamist scholars, or rather Islamist &quot;scholars&quot;, include any of those campaigning to have time measured from Mecca instead of from Greenwich.  After all, Mecca is the center of the world, doncha know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve spotted a niche in the labor market for somebody willing to change their name to John Frum.  [This idea is copyright.]</p>
<p>Daoloth: I wonder if the Islamist scholars, or rather Islamist &#8220;scholars&#8221;, include any of those campaigning to have time measured from Mecca instead of from Greenwich.  After all, Mecca is the center of the world, doncha know.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165167</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OB,

Mr Deity has an interesting take on that.

http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity#p/u/44/s-25iBw2EX8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB,</p>
<p>Mr Deity has an interesting take on that.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity#p/u/44/s-25iBw2EX8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity#p/u/44/s-25iBw2EX8</a></p>
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		<title>By: nina</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165163</link>
		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have been waiting 2000 years for yoursâ€. Priceless.

and too true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have been waiting 2000 years for yoursâ€. Priceless.</p>
<p>and too true!</p>
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		<title>By: Daoloth</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165140</link>
		<dc:creator>Daoloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ophelia. Its not her name- its her job.
@ Scooby. We should try to set up a version of that sect here. Get tax exemption. Special status. Demand our own schools. Tee hee hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ophelia. Its not her name- its her job.<br />
@ Scooby. We should try to set up a version of that sect here. Get tax exemption. Special status. Demand our own schools. Tee hee hee.</p>
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		<title>By: mateogg</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165127</link>
		<dc:creator>mateogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what people that believe in this:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Books/2010/02/Jesus-in-Food-and-Other-Objects.aspx
Think of this:
http://community.beliefnet.com/infamoustpm/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=99654359&amp;current_nav=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what people that believe in this:<br />
<a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Books/2010/02/Jesus-in-Food-and-Other-Objects.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Books/2010/02/Jesus-in-Food-and-Other-Objects.aspx</a><br />
Think of this:<br />
<a href="http://community.beliefnet.com/infamoustpm/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=99654359&#038;current_nav=0" rel="nofollow">http://community.beliefnet.com/infamoustpm/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=99654359&#038;current_nav=0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/26/milk/#comment-165107</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay the other ones then - why can&#039;t we take your name in vain if we want to? What&#039;s the big deal? You&#039;re omnipotent, remember? What do you care if we use your &#039;name&#039; to swear with? And is it even really your name anyway? Isn&#039;t it the name we&#039;ve given you? Do you really care what we do with the name we&#039;ve stuck on you? Aren&#039;t you kind of above that? Aren&#039;t you just too god damn glorious and transcendent and special to be so petty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay the other ones then &#8211; why can&#8217;t we take your name in vain if we want to? What&#8217;s the big deal? You&#8217;re omnipotent, remember? What do you care if we use your &#8216;name&#8217; to swear with? And is it even really your name anyway? Isn&#8217;t it the name we&#8217;ve given you? Do you really care what we do with the name we&#8217;ve stuck on you? Aren&#8217;t you kind of above that? Aren&#8217;t you just too god damn glorious and transcendent and special to be so petty?</p>
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