Comments on: lump http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/ Comic featuring Jesus and Mohammed Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:37:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Teralek http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-168762 Teralek Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:28:57 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-168762 This I cannot fathom. Why it would be better if moderates didn't have a belief in a transcendent reality (even if it is unlikely to be real)? This I cannot fathom. Why it would be better if moderates didn’t have a belief in a transcendent reality (even if it is unlikely to be real)?

]]> By: I heart Comics! | Godless Girl http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-167371 I heart Comics! | Godless Girl Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:41:20 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-167371 [...] (source) What could be better than a comic about Jesus and Mohammad? Jesus and Mohammad eating gefilte fish. [...] [...] (source) What could be better than a comic about Jesus and Mohammad? Jesus and Mohammad eating gefilte fish. [...]

]]> By: MercedesCorrosion http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-164234 MercedesCorrosion Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:17:15 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-164234 Nina:"(...) at least the fundies are more honest in saying it’s all gospel" True words have never been spoken! Moderates are practically lazy hypocrites refusing to admit how crazy, illogical and/or cruel their religion really is. While fundies admit to their craziness, unfortunately willing to fight, die and/or kill for it. Nina:”(…) at least the fundies are more honest in saying it’s all gospel”

True words have never been spoken! Moderates are practically lazy hypocrites refusing to admit how crazy, illogical and/or cruel their religion really is. While fundies admit to their craziness, unfortunately willing to fight, die and/or kill for it.

]]> By: MercedesCorrosion http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-164233 MercedesCorrosion Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:12:50 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-164233 @crusader rabid --- christians are just as fundamentalist as muslims. You yourself are one rabid example of that. It's all the same crazy based on same superstition, really. @crusader rabid — christians are just as fundamentalist as muslims. You yourself are one rabid example of that. It’s all the same crazy based on same superstition, really.

]]> By: AB1 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163612 AB1 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:52:08 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163612 @bodach Yeah I agree, moderates give fundamentalists a platform to stand on, otherwise they would just be nutjobs! Marcu Brigstock addresses this very well in his speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg (I hope you haven't heard this before/ don't mind me posting this. It's very funny, true, and relevant to this comic!) @bodach

Yeah I agree, moderates give fundamentalists a platform to stand on, otherwise they would just be nutjobs!

Marcu Brigstock addresses this very well in his speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg

(I hope you haven’t heard this before/ don’t mind me posting this. It’s very funny, true, and relevant to this comic!)

]]> By: Daoloth http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163602 Daoloth Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:40:51 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163602 What OB says reminds me of the response of Bertrand Russell on being asked what he would say if, after death, he was confronted with god. With hardly a pause Bertie replied that he would say "Why didn't you provide more evidence?" On a related note- Rebecca Goldstein's new "36 Arguments for the Existence of God" is very funny, of relevance to JaMers ad should keep Author in new ideas for another 400 strips. Best. What OB says reminds me of the response of Bertrand Russell on being asked what he would say if, after death, he was confronted with god. With hardly a pause Bertie replied that he would say “Why didn’t you provide more evidence?”
On a related note- Rebecca Goldstein’s new “36 Arguments for the Existence of God” is very funny, of relevance to JaMers ad should keep Author in new ideas for another 400 strips. Best.

]]> By: nina http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163578 nina Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:46:53 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163578 @mateogg Wow, that "i don't want to talk about it" is actually preferable to them misrepresenting what science or words actually mean. I think it also means that on some level, they have doubt - and thus, there's hope - because they can't even justify the beleif to themselves. @mateogg

Wow, that “i don’t want to talk about it” is actually preferable to them misrepresenting what science or words actually mean.

I think it also means that on some level, they have doubt – and thus, there’s hope – because they can’t even justify the beleif to themselves.

]]> By: John Moore http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163567 John Moore Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:15:06 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163567 @mateogg - I like to refer to it as geographically lucky. I mean why else would these peple be Christians? If these same people were born in Suadi Arabia, China, etc they would be Muslim, Buddists etc. I've used this before to fundi's and get the glazed look as well. @mateogg – I like to refer to it as geographically lucky. I mean why else would these peple be Christians? If these same people were born in Suadi Arabia, China, etc they would be Muslim, Buddists etc. I’ve used this before to fundi’s and get the glazed look as well.

]]> By: Crusader Rabid http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163560 Crusader Rabid Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:16:28 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163560 Charles F. Darwin! Author portrays Christianity and Islam in bed together, then has his fictional Jesus complaining about moderates being lumped together with fundamentalists? Atheist lies! Charles F. Darwin! Author portrays Christianity and Islam in bed together, then has his fictional Jesus complaining about moderates being lumped together with fundamentalists? Atheist lies!

]]> By: Stephen Turner http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163543 Stephen Turner Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:58:14 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163543 mateogg: you could ask your neighbour what if he's been worshipping the wrong one (or, even worse, the right one in the wrong way) all his life? After all there is a big difference between "I accept that there is a god" and "I must follow the Bible". How does he know that he shouldn't be with some other holy book, or The Da Vinci Code, or even this website? Same argument might work with your sister. Apart from agnostics, there is another kind of "don’t talk about religion but are too afraid not to be religious for Im-afraid-of-death reasons" guy: the ones who will be murdered if they express disagreement. Author: congrats on getting to 400. mateogg: you could ask your neighbour what if he’s been worshipping the wrong one (or, even worse, the right one in the wrong way) all his life?

After all there is a big difference between “I accept that there is a god” and “I must follow the Bible”. How does he know that he shouldn’t be with some other holy book, or The Da Vinci Code, or even this website?

Same argument might work with your sister.

Apart from agnostics, there is another kind of “don’t talk about religion but are too afraid not to be religious for Im-afraid-of-death reasons” guy: the ones who will be murdered if they express disagreement.

Author: congrats on getting to 400.

]]> By: Ophelia Benson http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163539 Ophelia Benson Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:24:43 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163539 Here's what the barmaid would have said if there had been room for a larger speech balloon: 'Well moderates do believe things that there's no good reason to believe, and on the whole I think it would be better if they didn't.' In a way it's really more significant that there's no good reason to believe what religions claim than it is that the things they claim are almost certainly untrue. Even if they are true - we've been given no good reason to think so - so if a god diddit - that's a god who isn't playing fair. It's a cheat. I think unbelievers should lean on that point more. If god exists and has been carefully hiding the fact all this time, that god is playing a nasty trick. Here’s what the barmaid would have said if there had been room for a larger speech balloon:

‘Well moderates do believe things that there’s no good reason to believe, and on the whole I think it would be better if they didn’t.’

In a way it’s really more significant that there’s no good reason to believe what religions claim than it is that the things they claim are almost certainly untrue. Even if they are true – we’ve been given no good reason to think so – so if a god diddit – that’s a god who isn’t playing fair. It’s a cheat. I think unbelievers should lean on that point more. If god exists and has been carefully hiding the fact all this time, that god is playing a nasty trick.

]]> By: Ophelia Benson http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163537 Ophelia Benson Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:28:20 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163537 Many happy returns ducky - you don't look a day over 399. Many happy returns ducky – you don’t look a day over 399.

]]> By: mateogg http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163525 mateogg Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:07:41 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163525 except my atheism makes me the weird one in the family...but she's the only creationist. Also, Im not sure I want to get my 15yo little sister drunk...yet except my atheism makes me the weird one in the family…but she’s the only creationist.
Also, Im not sure I want to get my 15yo little sister drunk…yet

]]> By: DonR http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163520 DonR Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:20:57 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163520 Mateogg, get her drunk. She'll talk then, they always do. Your challenge will then be to understand why she believes what she does. Only then can your arguments have any hope of saving her from the dark side. Unless you or she has a few recessive genes, or someone's adopted, there's a pretty good chance she'll come around to your way of thinking, eventually. ;) Mateogg, get her drunk. She’ll talk then, they always do. Your challenge will then be to understand why she believes what she does. Only then can your arguments have any hope of saving her from the dark side.

Unless you or she has a few recessive genes, or someone’s adopted, there’s a pretty good chance she’ll come around to your way of thinking, eventually. ;)

]]> By: Nassar Ben Houdja http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163517 Nassar Ben Houdja Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:28:34 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163517 Observation indicates that if humans have evolved after 40 poopillion years, that does not speak well for the theory, the same can be said of intelligent design. Most likely people are the beta versions of a work in progress. Observation indicates that if humans have evolved after 40 poopillion years, that does not speak well for the theory, the same can be said of intelligent design. Most likely people are the beta versions of a work in progress.

]]> By: mateogg http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163503 mateogg Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:40:21 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163503 nina: any time I bring up evidence she says "I don't want to talk about this", covers her ears and goes away...It's sad (the alternative is the previously mentioned "blablabla Im not listening blablabla") nina: any time I bring up evidence she says “I don’t want to talk about this”, covers her ears and goes away…It’s sad (the alternative is the previously mentioned “blablabla Im not listening blablabla”)

]]> By: catnip http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163489 catnip Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:34:33 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163489 Thanks author ;) that's a good one Thanks author ;) that’s a good one

]]> By: Neuseline http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163482 Neuseline Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:39:44 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163482 I am very happy that J and M are back on the Guiness and talking to Barmaid. I had been concerned that they might have fallen out. Happy 400th strip and well done! I am very happy that J and M are back on the Guiness and talking to Barmaid. I had been concerned that they might have fallen out.
Happy 400th strip and well done!

]]> By: nina http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163438 nina Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:36:20 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163438 mateogg how does she explain that those extinct "monkeys" don't have tails, while monkeys today have tails? Which is what makes them different from apes mateogg

how does she explain that those extinct “monkeys” don’t have tails, while monkeys today have tails?

Which is what makes them different from apes

]]> By: Poor Richard http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/02/05/lump/comment-page-1/#comment-163436 Poor Richard Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:16:19 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=1113#comment-163436 Poor Dick, he has to keep saying it over and over--any way you cut it, it's superstition; repeat, superstition; repeat, superstition. I lived for years in Pensacola, the Buckle of the Bible Belt. My students were fine folks, and often very smart. But when they talked about Jesus, their eyes would go all weird, reflecting, no doubt, the well-washed brain. Poor Dick, he has to keep saying it over and over–any way you cut it, it’s superstition; repeat, superstition; repeat, superstition.

I lived for years in Pensacola, the Buckle of the Bible Belt. My students were fine folks, and often very smart. But when they talked about Jesus, their eyes would go all weird, reflecting, no doubt, the well-washed brain.

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