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		<title>By: fenchurch</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-175469</link>
		<dc:creator>fenchurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, online voting-- the very worst of ad populum.  
I wouldn&#039;t mind them so much if you could write in votes like they do in some places where no suitable candidate is running so the voters write in the town dog or a dead guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, online voting&#8211; the very worst of ad populum.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t mind them so much if you could write in votes like they do in some places where no suitable candidate is running so the voters write in the town dog or a dead guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-163266</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J&amp;M occasionally lacks a punchline, but it&#039;s usually there. Today&#039;s is one of the more obvious ones. I liked it. I very rarely read a J&amp;M strip I don&#039;t like.

Pharyngulate that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J&amp;M occasionally lacks a punchline, but it&#8217;s usually there. Today&#8217;s is one of the more obvious ones. I liked it. I very rarely read a J&amp;M strip I don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Pharyngulate that.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: Toast in the machine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162893</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the fourth panel of each strip, you&#039;ll see there&#039;s a punch-line each time. Sometimes they&#039;re obvious, but sometimes they are very dry and subtle, and can go over the head of the more simple-minded. To an extent, this is a shame, but if you concentrate you might spot a few more. And as you might work out from the large number of people who enjoy the strip, many people do find them funny.

I&#039;ve always taken the naive, childish, simplistic style of the artwork as reflecting the naive, childish and simplistic world-view of the religious. It serves as a counterpoint to the written content. Or would that be too subtle also?

Please explain how am I stopping anyone from believing in &#039;&lt;i&gt;their little gods&lt;/i&gt;&#039;? Show me one example of how I (or the author) is preventing anyone doing this.

If you really don&#039;t see why atheists should say publically that religion is bullshit then you&#039;ve obviously never really considered it. Or would you say the same to a theist? &#039;&lt;i&gt;Why not just let people &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; believe in the things you believe in, &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; enjoy tax-breaks funded by ordinary tax-payers, &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; proselytise, &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; try to influence government policy or public opinion, &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; indoctrinate children with your irrational, toxic superstitions - after all, it&#039;s just your little fantasy. Enjoy it yourself, but why try to get anyone else to accept it?&lt;/i&gt;&#039;

- can you see yourself saying that? Can you post a link to a religious website where you&#039;ve posted that? If you can oppose religion as strongly as you oppose lack-of-religion, then congratulations - you&#039;re not a hypocrite. Otherwise, try thinking a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the fourth panel of each strip, you&#8217;ll see there&#8217;s a punch-line each time. Sometimes they&#8217;re obvious, but sometimes they are very dry and subtle, and can go over the head of the more simple-minded. To an extent, this is a shame, but if you concentrate you might spot a few more. And as you might work out from the large number of people who enjoy the strip, many people do find them funny.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always taken the naive, childish, simplistic style of the artwork as reflecting the naive, childish and simplistic world-view of the religious. It serves as a counterpoint to the written content. Or would that be too subtle also?</p>
<p>Please explain how am I stopping anyone from believing in &#8216;<i>their little gods</i>&#8216;? Show me one example of how I (or the author) is preventing anyone doing this.</p>
<p>If you really don&#8217;t see why atheists should say publically that religion is bullshit then you&#8217;ve obviously never really considered it. Or would you say the same to a theist? &#8216;<i>Why not just let people <b>not</b> believe in the things you believe in, <b>don&#8217;t</b> enjoy tax-breaks funded by ordinary tax-payers, <b>don&#8217;t</b> proselytise, <b>don&#8217;t</b> try to influence government policy or public opinion, <b>don&#8217;t</b> indoctrinate children with your irrational, toxic superstitions &#8211; after all, it&#8217;s just your little fantasy. Enjoy it yourself, but why try to get anyone else to accept it?</i>&#8216;</p>
<p>- can you see yourself saying that? Can you post a link to a religious website where you&#8217;ve posted that? If you can oppose religion as strongly as you oppose lack-of-religion, then congratulations &#8211; you&#8217;re not a hypocrite. Otherwise, try thinking a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Coyote Trax</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162880</link>
		<dc:creator>Coyote Trax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, there is a punchline from time to time. It&#039;s not funny, but it&#039;s there. 

As for the artwork being fine? No. Just no. You, sir, must lack eyes or something. This is really bad. If it were drawn in crayon, it might get away with being a parody or, at the very least, a poor social commentary on the availability (or lack thereof) of art supplies in schools. 

There&#039;s so much irony in your attitude though. Why the &#039;holier than thou&#039; stance? Why not just let people believe in their little gods and things and just sit back with a nice cup of tea and call it a day? I don&#039;t see why some atheists have to be so contentious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, there is a punchline from time to time. It&#8217;s not funny, but it&#8217;s there. </p>
<p>As for the artwork being fine? No. Just no. You, sir, must lack eyes or something. This is really bad. If it were drawn in crayon, it might get away with being a parody or, at the very least, a poor social commentary on the availability (or lack thereof) of art supplies in schools. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much irony in your attitude though. Why the &#8216;holier than thou&#8217; stance? Why not just let people believe in their little gods and things and just sit back with a nice cup of tea and call it a day? I don&#8217;t see why some atheists have to be so contentious.</p>
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		<title>By: Toast in the machine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162879</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm... You&#039;re certainly arrogant enough to be a religionist, not to mention a stranger to logic.

Let&#039;s see:
&#039;&lt;i&gt;...there&#039;s no punchline&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;Where&#039;s the funny?!&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;...isn&#039;t even any decent artwork...&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;....retarded attempt at humour...&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;...drawn by a kid with palsy...&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;Dawkins... is a gigantic ass-hat&lt;/i&gt;&#039;
&#039;&lt;i&gt;Because, atheists&lt;/i&gt;&#039;

Opinions? - Looks more like a string of peurile insults to me. Especially that last one - &#039;&lt;i&gt;Because, atheists&lt;/i&gt;&#039; - and you now claim you are one! Do you really have so little respect for something you claim to be? Hard to believe. You sound more like a typical trolling, low-life religious mentalist.

But apparently I &#039;&lt;i&gt;just choose a side and defend it&lt;/i&gt;&#039;, and somehow that means I&#039;m &#039;&lt;i&gt;not thinking for myself&lt;/i&gt;&#039;. What the fuck?! I disagree with everything you&#039;ve written, and made that clear in as polite and reasoned a way as your original post - and now you&#039;re bleating about it? Grow up. Thinking for myself in this case means, yes, I and a lot of other people find the strip funny, there clearly is a punchline, the artwork is fine - it mocks the simplistic view of religious idiots, and what the fuck you think Richard Dawkins has to do with it I don&#039;t know and you don&#039;t explain.

Grow up, and get over yourself. You don&#039;t like something; a lot of people do. If you actually do have opinions, spell them out, instead of just vomiting crap onto the internet and then whinging that people who disagree with you say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm&#8230; You&#8217;re certainly arrogant enough to be a religionist, not to mention a stranger to logic.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see:<br />
&#8216;<i>&#8230;there&#8217;s no punchline</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>Where&#8217;s the funny?!</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>&#8230;isn&#8217;t even any decent artwork&#8230;</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>&#8230;.retarded attempt at humour&#8230;</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>&#8230;drawn by a kid with palsy&#8230;</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>Dawkins&#8230; is a gigantic ass-hat</i>&#8216;<br />
&#8216;<i>Because, atheists</i>&#8216;</p>
<p>Opinions? &#8211; Looks more like a string of peurile insults to me. Especially that last one &#8211; &#8216;<i>Because, atheists</i>&#8216; &#8211; and you now claim you are one! Do you really have so little respect for something you claim to be? Hard to believe. You sound more like a typical trolling, low-life religious mentalist.</p>
<p>But apparently I &#8216;<i>just choose a side and defend it</i>&#8216;, and somehow that means I&#8217;m &#8216;<i>not thinking for myself</i>&#8216;. What the fuck?! I disagree with everything you&#8217;ve written, and made that clear in as polite and reasoned a way as your original post &#8211; and now you&#8217;re bleating about it? Grow up. Thinking for myself in this case means, yes, I and a lot of other people find the strip funny, there clearly is a punchline, the artwork is fine &#8211; it mocks the simplistic view of religious idiots, and what the fuck you think Richard Dawkins has to do with it I don&#8217;t know and you don&#8217;t explain.</p>
<p>Grow up, and get over yourself. You don&#8217;t like something; a lot of people do. If you actually do have opinions, spell them out, instead of just vomiting crap onto the internet and then whinging that people who disagree with you say so.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamJansen</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162823</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamJansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Coyote Trax:

I do care about other peoples opinions, and I care so much that I show religious people highest respect possible: I criticize their ideas. Critique and satire are forms of dialogue and engaging with others, and I consider Jesus&amp;Mo, Richard Dawkins, myself and the majority of vocal atheists to be very respectful of religious people. We take it very seriously, unlike people who do not wish to hear both sides of the religion-debate.

One of my few English-language-pieces explores this form of respect in detail, and if you click my signature for this comment you will be taken directly to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Coyote Trax:</p>
<p>I do care about other peoples opinions, and I care so much that I show religious people highest respect possible: I criticize their ideas. Critique and satire are forms of dialogue and engaging with others, and I consider Jesus&amp;Mo, Richard Dawkins, myself and the majority of vocal atheists to be very respectful of religious people. We take it very seriously, unlike people who do not wish to hear both sides of the religion-debate.</p>
<p>One of my few English-language-pieces explores this form of respect in detail, and if you click my signature for this comment you will be taken directly to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Coyote Trax</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162805</link>
		<dc:creator>Coyote Trax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Toast Master General, 

I never once said there was a god. I don&#039;t believe in a god, I doubt I ever will. I&#039;ve got a shiny (yet entirely worthless) biology degree to back that up. 

You give atheism a bad rep son, you don&#039;t care about other people&#039;s opinions, you don&#039;t think for yourself. You just choose a side and defend it. You don&#039;t even care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Toast Master General, </p>
<p>I never once said there was a god. I don&#8217;t believe in a god, I doubt I ever will. I&#8217;ve got a shiny (yet entirely worthless) biology degree to back that up. </p>
<p>You give atheism a bad rep son, you don&#8217;t care about other people&#8217;s opinions, you don&#8217;t think for yourself. You just choose a side and defend it. You don&#8217;t even care.</p>
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		<title>By: Toast in the machine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162799</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristian - &#039;&lt;i&gt;St Fu&lt;/i&gt;&#039; - nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristian &#8211; &#8216;<i>St Fu</i>&#8216; &#8211; nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Toast in the machine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162798</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Coyote Trax, I realise now I was wrong. Your intelligent, reasoned and supremely witty input has convinced me that - hallelujah! - god does exist. How could I ever have doubted?! Praise be!

And, Richard Dawkins! - yes! &#039;ass-hat&#039;!

Ha ha! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!1!!.!

You&#039;re so clever.

Genius.

Cock-end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Coyote Trax, I realise now I was wrong. Your intelligent, reasoned and supremely witty input has convinced me that &#8211; hallelujah! &#8211; god does exist. How could I ever have doubted?! Praise be!</p>
<p>And, Richard Dawkins! &#8211; yes! &#8216;ass-hat&#8217;!</p>
<p>Ha ha! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!1!!.!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re so clever.</p>
<p>Genius.</p>
<p>Cock-end.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Dawkins</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/01/26/click/#comment-162794</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Dawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Further: Richard Dawkins, while being a brilliant scientist, is a gigantic ass-hat. Thought Iâ€šÃ„Ã´d say that here. Because, atheists.&quot;

I fucked your mum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Further: Richard Dawkins, while being a brilliant scientist, is a gigantic ass-hat. Thought Iâ€šÃ„Ã´d say that here. Because, atheists.&#8221;</p>
<p>I fucked your mum.</p>
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