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	<description>Two prophets, living together.</description>
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		<title>By: Flea</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-156035</link>
		<dc:creator>Flea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ot: This deserves a take!! Mo and jesus are gonna like it. And, I know, your job couldn&#039;t be easier here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/6241861/Child-abuse-common-in-other-churches-says-Vatican.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ot: This deserves a take!! Mo and jesus are gonna like it. And, I know, your job couldn&#8217;t be easier here.<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/6241861/Child-abuse-common-in-other-churches-says-Vatican.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/6241861/Child-abuse-common-in-other-churches-says-Vatican.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DonR</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-156012</link>
		<dc:creator>DonR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One senses a bumper Blasphemy Day edition of J&amp;M approaching... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One senses a bumper Blasphemy Day edition of J&amp;M approaching&#8230; <img src='http://www.jesusandmo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Toast in the machine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155873</link>
		<dc:creator>Toast in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tariq Ramadan was quite well known in the UK media a few years ago. He was taken uncritically as a moderate voice of Islam until very recently, appearing on mainstream serious news programmes without question or criticism, though he seems to have slipped out of the limelight in the last year or two.

I can’t vouch for the source (&lt;a href=&quot;http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/ramadantxt.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;but this is from about four years ago:&lt;/a&gt;), 

&lt;i&gt;Mastering the art of taqiyya (double speaking to fool the unbelievers), Tariq Ramadan has enchanted many with his apparent moderation. But a careful examination of his words reveals that Professor Ramadan is not what he seems and claims to be. Yes, he says that he &quot;agrees with integration&quot; of Muslims in the West, but he is careful to say that &quot;we [Muslims] are the ones who are going to decide the content.&quot; He mollifies by saying that he accepts Western secular law, but, here&#039;s the catch, &quot;only if this law doesn&#039;t force me to do things against my religion.&quot; And when he is cornered with questions on the brutality of some punishments of Islamic law, such as stoning, he tells us that he is against them, but (there is always a &quot;but&quot;) they are in Quranic texts and so he cannot fully condemn them and we have to settle for &quot;an absolute moratorium on all physical punishments.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

- note the ‘moratorium’ – not a repeal or rejection, just a suspension of its implementation.

He’s also known for being the grandson of Hassan Al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic radical movement that gave birth to al Qaeda and Hamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tariq Ramadan was quite well known in the UK media a few years ago. He was taken uncritically as a moderate voice of Islam until very recently, appearing on mainstream serious news programmes without question or criticism, though he seems to have slipped out of the limelight in the last year or two.</p>
<p>I can’t vouch for the source (<a href="http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/ramadantxt.htm" rel="nofollow">but this is from about four years ago:</a>), </p>
<p><i>Mastering the art of taqiyya (double speaking to fool the unbelievers), Tariq Ramadan has enchanted many with his apparent moderation. But a careful examination of his words reveals that Professor Ramadan is not what he seems and claims to be. Yes, he says that he &#8220;agrees with integration&#8221; of Muslims in the West, but he is careful to say that &#8220;we [Muslims] are the ones who are going to decide the content.&#8221; He mollifies by saying that he accepts Western secular law, but, here&#8217;s the catch, &#8220;only if this law doesn&#8217;t force me to do things against my religion.&#8221; And when he is cornered with questions on the brutality of some punishments of Islamic law, such as stoning, he tells us that he is against them, but (there is always a &#8220;but&#8221;) they are in Quranic texts and so he cannot fully condemn them and we have to settle for &#8220;an absolute moratorium on all physical punishments.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>- note the ‘moratorium’ – not a repeal or rejection, just a suspension of its implementation.</p>
<p>He’s also known for being the grandson of Hassan Al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic radical movement that gave birth to al Qaeda and Hamas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155870</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it&#039;s Friday, that&#039;s a perfectly good excuse!

:- )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s Friday, that&#8217;s a perfectly good excuse!</p>
<p>:- )</p>
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		<title>By: zoidberg</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155840</link>
		<dc:creator>zoidberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, just realised the err of my ways and now I feel stupid.  Forgot that the last special guest writer was a posted by the &quot;Archbishop of Canterbury.&quot;

Can&#039;t even use &quot;it&#039;s Monday&quot; as an excuse either. Oh well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, just realised the err of my ways and now I feel stupid.  Forgot that the last special guest writer was a posted by the &#8220;Archbishop of Canterbury.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t even use &#8220;it&#8217;s Monday&#8221; as an excuse either. Oh well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155835</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s a very shady character; I rather think that&#039;s why he&#039;s being made mock of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s a very shady character; I rather think that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s being made mock of.</p>
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		<title>By: zoidberg</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155833</link>
		<dc:creator>zoidberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry J&amp;M, but isn&#039;t this Tariq Ramadan bloke a bit of a shady character?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Tariq+Ramadan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry J&amp;M, but isn&#8217;t this Tariq Ramadan bloke a bit of a shady character?</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Tariq+Ramadan" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/tag/Tariq+Ramadan</a></p>
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		<title>By: JohnnieCanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155714</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnieCanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For someone who&#039;s not political, he certainly has the &#039;non-committal&#039; and &#039;tailored for the audience&#039; tactics well in hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For someone who&#8217;s not political, he certainly has the &#8216;non-committal&#8217; and &#8216;tailored for the audience&#8217; tactics well in hand.</p>
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		<title>By: wright</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155713</link>
		<dc:creator>wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, Didac. There are folks who look at the Bible and Koran and see precisely what they want to see. When I was a Christian, I cherry-picked my own doctrine and ignored the rest. 

When I finally realized that not only I but every other Christian I knew was doing it... That&#039;s pretty much when I stopped being a believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Didac. There are folks who look at the Bible and Koran and see precisely what they want to see. When I was a Christian, I cherry-picked my own doctrine and ignored the rest. </p>
<p>When I finally realized that not only I but every other Christian I knew was doing it&#8230; That&#8217;s pretty much when I stopped being a believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Daoloth</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/24/texts/#comment-155712</link>
		<dc:creator>Daoloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all true non-believers: 
http://mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0
International blasphemy day is fast approaching and people might want to think about participation.
To put you in the mood, try this on for size:
http://ladyboyjesus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/blasphemy.jpg

All together now:..&quot;Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me...for me!...for me!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all true non-believers:<br />
<a href="http://mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0" rel="nofollow">http://mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0</a><br />
International blasphemy day is fast approaching and people might want to think about participation.<br />
To put you in the mood, try this on for size:<br />
<a href="http://ladyboyjesus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/blasphemy.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://ladyboyjesus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/blasphemy.jpg</a></p>
<p>All together now:..&#8221;Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me&#8230;for me!&#8230;for me!&#8221;</p>
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