Comments on: dust http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/ Comic featuring Jesus and Mohammed Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:47:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gelfling http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155648 Gelfling Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:15:16 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155648 The world ended two days ago? Shit... I missed it. I guess none of you are out there anymore. But that's okay, because I'm not here either. The world ended two days ago? Shit… I missed it. I guess none of you are out there anymore. But that’s okay, because I’m not here either.

]]> By: MyCatIsGod http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155523 MyCatIsGod Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:36:09 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155523 @Stephen Turner Wow - that's an amazing find. This graph in particular is just splendid: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/09/oh_no_warning_alert_alert_aler/time_wave.php I, for one, am utterly convinced. As a result of such overwhelming evidence I have already put sugar in my tea (twice), started smoking again, and plan on asking out the cute girl who works in my local tabac. No point in putting these things off any more, what with the end of the world and everything... @Stephen Turner

Wow – that’s an amazing find. This graph in particular is just splendid:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/09/oh_no_warning_alert_alert_aler/time_wave.php

I, for one, am utterly convinced. As a result of such overwhelming evidence I have already put sugar in my tea (twice), started smoking again, and plan on asking out the cute girl who works in my local tabac. No point in putting these things off any more, what with the end of the world and everything…

]]> By: Stephen Turner http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155512 Stephen Turner Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:34:22 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155512 PZ Myers has pointed out that the world is going to end today. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/oh_no_warning_alert_alert_aler.php Or rather, the Rapture is today, because the war of Gog and Magog is starting today. Or something. Put it in your diary anyway. PZ Myers has pointed out that the world is going to end today.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/oh_no_warning_alert_alert_aler.php

Or rather, the Rapture is today, because the war of Gog and Magog is starting today.
Or something. Put it in your diary anyway.

]]> By: Francesc http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155510 Francesc Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:08:21 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155510 @azurefrog and @nina It's a well known fallacy ("no true scotchman") and a defensive position. You can't argue with them that "some" of their leaders weren't behaving according to their words, because then "they weren't true "whatever"" For example, those ministers who abuse childs aren't true christians. I still am wondering if there is a "true" christian :-) Besides, keep in mind that they all are reading the same book and reaching -by the intervention of the same holy spirit- different conclusions, so the only explanaition is that the other sects are not "true christians" and then they can't receive the "true holy spirit". And to some extent, there are not two christians who believe the same about their god's will -yeah, that holy spirit is a bit inefficient @azurefrog and @nina
It’s a well known fallacy (“no true scotchman”) and a defensive position. You can’t argue with them that “some” of their leaders weren’t behaving according to their words, because then “they weren’t true “whatever”"
For example, those ministers who abuse childs aren’t true christians.
I still am wondering if there is a “true” christian :-)

Besides, keep in mind that they all are reading the same book and reaching -by the intervention of the same holy spirit- different conclusions, so the only explanaition is that the other sects are not “true christians” and then they can’t receive the “true holy spirit”. And to some extent, there are not two christians who believe the same about their god’s will -yeah, that holy spirit is a bit inefficient

]]> By: grouchy-one http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155500 grouchy-one Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:11:15 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155500 HAHAHA J&Mo Halal!! Totally :-D Nice one Stephen HAHAHA J&Mo Halal!! Totally :-D
Nice one Stephen

]]> By: Stephen Turner http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155496 Stephen Turner Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:14:54 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155496 You can all relax: jesusandmo.net is Halal. You can all relax: jesusandmo.net is Halal.

]]> By: Tor Hershman http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155493 Tor Hershman Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:09:54 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155493 Most amusing, indeed. Jesus an' Mo, and others, make an apperance in moi's wee YouTube parody film <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6qC6FCiY0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6qC6FCiY0</a> Stay on groovin' safari, Tor Most amusing, indeed.

Jesus an’ Mo, and others, make an apperance in moi’s wee YouTube parody film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6qC6FCiY0

Stay on groovin’ safari,
Tor

]]> By: Vince R http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155488 Vince R Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:31:06 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155488 Perfect contradiction! It never ceases to amaze me that true believers never seem to spot it! Perfect contradiction! It never ceases to amaze me that true believers never seem to spot it!

]]> By: Rosemarie http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155486 Rosemarie Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:01:07 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155486 Daoloth, your mentioning the imhalal website reminded me to check if those Goodies have taken any notice of my e-mail correcting a mistake on their blog page. "YOUR in charge of your own actions". It now reads YOU'RE in charge ......., but did they thank me? Daoloth, your mentioning the imhalal website reminded me to check if those Goodies have taken any notice of my e-mail correcting a mistake on their blog page.
“YOUR in charge of your own actions”. It now reads YOU’RE in charge ……., but did they thank me?

]]> By: nina http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155477 nina Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:16:27 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155477 azurefrog You've hit upon a topic that I am puzzling on - this insistence by True Believers that only they or ones like them or that they approve of are True Whatevers and other people who say that they are whatevers are not. What's interesting is that it's not just a particular religion, but other areas, like fans of an entertainer. On an Elvis forum, I had a woman tell me that I wasn't a true Elvis fan because I was willing to accept certain claims about Elvis being realistic and likely. And it was funny to me that my listening specifically to him for the last 33 years, collecting albums, cds, books and DVDs somehow didn't mean I was a true fan if I accepted certain claims as fact. To me it was very much like people in one splinter group of xtianity claiming members of other splinter groups weren't true xtians to be the same thing. So, funny that it's not enough to be in the club, now you have to be in the correct chapter. and wouldn't you expect that the oldest chapter - the Catholic Church - is the correct one? Do you think this is an American thing - that anything European is rejected and the authority must be local? Is that why Mormonism took hold, because it claimed a third testament right in the US? Is it that religious American's can't cope with the Bible, allegedly the word of god, making no mention of America? azurefrog

You’ve hit upon a topic that I am puzzling on – this insistence by True Believers that only they or ones like them or that they approve of are True Whatevers and other people who say that they are whatevers are not.

What’s interesting is that it’s not just a particular religion, but other areas, like fans of an entertainer.

On an Elvis forum, I had a woman tell me that I wasn’t a true Elvis fan because I was willing to accept certain claims about Elvis being realistic and likely.

And it was funny to me that my listening specifically to him for the last 33 years, collecting albums, cds, books and DVDs somehow didn’t mean I was a true fan if I accepted certain claims as fact.

To me it was very much like people in one splinter group of xtianity claiming members of other splinter groups weren’t true xtians to be the same thing.

So, funny that it’s not enough to be in the club, now you have to be in the correct chapter.

and wouldn’t you expect that the oldest chapter – the Catholic Church – is the correct one?

Do you think this is an American thing – that anything European is rejected and the authority must be local?

Is that why Mormonism took hold, because it claimed a third testament right in the US?

Is it that religious American’s can’t cope with the Bible, allegedly the word of god, making no mention of America?

]]> By: kynefski http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155471 kynefski Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:52:32 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155471 Shouldn't it be, "You cannot touch him with your logic, NOR your reason...?" Still, brilliant. Shouldn’t it be, “You cannot touch him with your logic, NOR your reason…?”

Still, brilliant.

]]> By: Submoron http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155465 Submoron Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:58:08 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155465 Ineffable? Well eff him! Ineffable? Well eff him!

]]> By: azurefrog http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155458 azurefrog Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:28:23 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155458 @nina - I think religious people all consider themselves a persecuted minority because they are so, um, 'diverse'. Each little splinter group considers everyone else not to be a TRUE whatever-they-are, and so they are only a tiny minority, despite the fact that a large chunk of the U.S. is made up of these tiny minorities... :P @nina – I think religious people all consider themselves a persecuted minority because they are so, um, ‘diverse’. Each little splinter group considers everyone else not to be a TRUE whatever-they-are, and so they are only a tiny minority, despite the fact that a large chunk of the U.S. is made up of these tiny minorities… :P

]]> By: grouchy-one http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155454 grouchy-one Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:49:01 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155454 Nice find Daoloth on the imhalal site! It's a fun challenge to come up with searches that it finds "halal" but generates totally haram results. I tried "Mohammed married a nine year old girl" Nice find Daoloth on the imhalal site! It’s a fun challenge to come up with searches that it finds “halal” but generates totally haram results. I tried “Mohammed married a nine year old girl”

]]> By: Mr Gronk http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155452 Mr Gronk Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:01:32 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155452 Daoloth: CS Lewis's definition would make prayer more like meditation, which would be a huge disappointment in itself to every faith-head begging the sky fairy for a lotto win. Daoloth: CS Lewis’s definition would make prayer more like meditation, which would be a huge disappointment in itself to every faith-head begging the sky fairy for a lotto win.

]]> By: Daoloth http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155451 Daoloth Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:54:37 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155451 CS Lewis argued that prayer was an attempt to tune in to the deity, rather than an attempt to change her mind. Hmm. Not sure how that applies to petitionary prayer, which has always seemed patently childish to me, but I thought I would add my two-pennorth. BTW. JaMoers might enjoy http://imhalal.com/ Try searching for "Mohammed is a paedophile" or similar CS Lewis argued that prayer was an attempt to tune in to the deity, rather than an attempt to change her mind. Hmm. Not sure how that applies to petitionary prayer, which has always seemed patently childish to me, but I thought I would add my two-pennorth.
BTW. JaMoers might enjoy http://imhalal.com/
Try searching for “Mohammed is a paedophile” or similar

]]> By: dave http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155447 dave Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:53:41 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155447 “If I understand Armstrong correctly, God is “ineffable, suckers!” So why do god-ites pray?”

Because religion is all about having your cake and eating it too. Religion always tries to unify two or more contradictory beliefs and then use the “it is a mystery” dodge to avoid charges of self-contradiction.

]]> By: dave http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155446 dave Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:51:41 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155446 “Sooo, ML knew he was talking cods wallop! I suppose I naively thought he believed it…..”

Who says he didn’t believe it? More likely he did believe it; he just didn’t think he had to justify his belief rationally.

]]> By: Mr Gronk http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155445 Mr Gronk Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:39:28 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155445 @Intelligent Designer: One definition of prayer is "asking an infallible being to change his mind" @Intelligent Designer:
One definition of prayer is “asking an infallible being to change his mind”

]]> By: Poor Richard http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/09/17/dust/comment-page-1/#comment-155439 Poor Richard Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:10:57 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/?p=991#comment-155439 As Wise Richard said, "Ontology recapitulates scatology." We could all use a shit shelter, no? As Wise Richard said, “Ontology recapitulates scatology.” We could all use a shit shelter, no?

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