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	<description>Two prophets, living together.</description>
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		<title>By: AGOGIATIS</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-173944</link>
		<dc:creator>AGOGIATIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 00:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ihave read this in a book, I can&#039;t remember which one:

&quot;When I was a child, I prayed to god to give me a bicycle.
Later on, I stole one.
Now, I pray for forgiveness!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ihave read this in a book, I can&#8217;t remember which one:</p>
<p>&#8220;When I was a child, I prayed to god to give me a bicycle.<br />
Later on, I stole one.<br />
Now, I pray for forgiveness!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cafeeine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-148875</link>
		<dc:creator>Cafeeine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Greece, the muslim influx was due to immigration, although breeding will become a factor in the coming years. The problem has surfaced in the last 4-5 years, while there has been a muslim minority in Greece, a remnant of the years of the Ottoman empire and the subsequent changes in territories &amp; populations. (We were a lot more mixed before the Greek liberation in the 1820s.) The difference is apparent because the increased Muslim population comes from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh etc. and have more integration problems than just their religion. Native Greek Muslims on the other hand have been long neglected by the Greek state, which is unfortunate because they could have been used as a connecting link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Greece, the muslim influx was due to immigration, although breeding will become a factor in the coming years. The problem has surfaced in the last 4-5 years, while there has been a muslim minority in Greece, a remnant of the years of the Ottoman empire and the subsequent changes in territories &amp; populations. (We were a lot more mixed before the Greek liberation in the 1820s.) The difference is apparent because the increased Muslim population comes from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh etc. and have more integration problems than just their religion. Native Greek Muslims on the other hand have been long neglected by the Greek state, which is unfortunate because they could have been used as a connecting link.</p>
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		<title>By: mateo-argentino</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147675</link>
		<dc:creator>mateo-argentino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cafeeine, I was hoping a greek person would leave a comment, as the rest of us lack of the background you have on this situation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cafeeine, I was hoping a greek person would leave a comment, as the rest of us lack of the background you have on this situation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jerry w</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147673</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercator:
What&#039;s usually at the end of a &quot;bishopric&quot; isn&#039;t a &quot;k&quot;, it&#039;s an altar boy.

Cafeeine:
Do you think that the muslim population has grown significantly due to immigration, or because they are very good at breeding? Been to the 
North of France recently?

And to digress a bit, if flipping a car impresses you, 
come to California, where people flip houses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercator:<br />
What&#8217;s usually at the end of a &#8220;bishopric&#8221; isn&#8217;t a &#8220;k&#8221;, it&#8217;s an altar boy.</p>
<p>Cafeeine:<br />
Do you think that the muslim population has grown significantly due to immigration, or because they are very good at breeding? Been to the<br />
North of France recently?</p>
<p>And to digress a bit, if flipping a car impresses you,<br />
come to California, where people flip houses!</p>
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		<title>By: Daoloth</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147657</link>
		<dc:creator>Daoloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 10:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bishop&quot; as a term of abuse has a certain charm, but there is a danger of being mistaken for protestants. &quot;No Bishops! No Popery!&quot; has been a war-cry since parlimentarian times. Also, is there a danger of angering the local chess club? I reckon we could take those geeks though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bishop&#8221; as a term of abuse has a certain charm, but there is a danger of being mistaken for protestants. &#8220;No Bishops! No Popery!&#8221; has been a war-cry since parlimentarian times. Also, is there a danger of angering the local chess club? I reckon we could take those geeks though.</p>
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		<title>By: Cafeeine</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147632</link>
		<dc:creator>Cafeeine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Greek resident, I should explain some things.

In Greece, there is a significant connection between the Greek Orthodox Church and the state. Among other things, the GOC has a say on whether temples of other faiths get built and where, as well as stewardship over most of the cemetaries (I believe there are a just a few historical catholic and jewish cemetaries) The issue of a mosque in the Athens area is a hotly debated issue, as the muslim population has grown significantly due to immigration. 

Regarding the mosque,  the Greek state needs to provide the permits for a mosque of a significant aize to accommodate the growing muslim pop. I believe the community has made several proposals that have been struck down,either by the state or blackballed by the GOC.

Until recently over 90% of the population were (at least nominally ) G.O. Xians and it is still the unmentioned assumption if you are Greek &amp; white. While there isn&#039;t a lot of overt racism, its still there. The church has been immersed in the recent centuries of Greek history. We arguably weren&#039;t ready to be a multicultural country. (and its not peachy to be an atheist here either)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Greek resident, I should explain some things.</p>
<p>In Greece, there is a significant connection between the Greek Orthodox Church and the state. Among other things, the GOC has a say on whether temples of other faiths get built and where, as well as stewardship over most of the cemetaries (I believe there are a just a few historical catholic and jewish cemetaries) The issue of a mosque in the Athens area is a hotly debated issue, as the muslim population has grown significantly due to immigration. </p>
<p>Regarding the mosque,  the Greek state needs to provide the permits for a mosque of a significant aize to accommodate the growing muslim pop. I believe the community has made several proposals that have been struck down,either by the state or blackballed by the GOC.</p>
<p>Until recently over 90% of the population were (at least nominally ) G.O. Xians and it is still the unmentioned assumption if you are Greek &amp; white. While there isn&#8217;t a lot of overt racism, its still there. The church has been immersed in the recent centuries of Greek history. We arguably weren&#8217;t ready to be a multicultural country. (and its not peachy to be an atheist here either)</p>
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		<title>By: maggs</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147620</link>
		<dc:creator>maggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Britain, there is a wonderful old cheese, called Stinking Bishop.  Would anyone like some?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Britain, there is a wonderful old cheese, called Stinking Bishop.  Would anyone like some?</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147619</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to start yelling &#039;bishop&#039; at rude people in the street. Life is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to start yelling &#8216;bishop&#8217; at rude people in the street. Life is good.</p>
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		<title>By: mateo-argentino</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147613</link>
		<dc:creator>mateo-argentino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I didn&#039;t expect much response to my Ska-p comment. 

Satan, I don&#039;t rely on the song to make my mind on the subject, what I mean is that the first time I heard the song I thought &quot;wow, thats pretty much how I feel about Palestine&quot;

Simon, sorry about the misunderstanding, I didn&#039;t realize &quot;=0&quot; was someone (I thought you were expressing surpirse!)

Daoloth, Ska-p has actually a lot of really good lyrics...If you liked it you should look them up (I&#039;m actually no big fan of the band, and the only song that I remember the lyrics from is Intifada...but they have a lot of other good songs!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I didn&#8217;t expect much response to my Ska-p comment. </p>
<p>Satan, I don&#8217;t rely on the song to make my mind on the subject, what I mean is that the first time I heard the song I thought &#8220;wow, thats pretty much how I feel about Palestine&#8221;</p>
<p>Simon, sorry about the misunderstanding, I didn&#8217;t realize &#8220;=0&#8243; was someone (I thought you were expressing surpirse!)</p>
<p>Daoloth, Ska-p has actually a lot of really good lyrics&#8230;If you liked it you should look them up (I&#8217;m actually no big fan of the band, and the only song that I remember the lyrics from is Intifada&#8230;but they have a lot of other good songs!)</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/05/26/cars/#comment-147612</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that if you can pick up a car and flip it over all by yourself, I&#039;ll be mighty impressed.  Maybe not respectful, but impressed. 

On the other hand, I certainly and whole-heartedly respect and especially encourage muslims (and catholics and Co$ and whoever else) who might be inclined to set themselves on fire to do so.  So long, of course, as they go the whole distance.  Heck, I&#039;ll even sweep up the ashes myself.  I say go for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that if you can pick up a car and flip it over all by yourself, I&#8217;ll be mighty impressed.  Maybe not respectful, but impressed. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I certainly and whole-heartedly respect and especially encourage muslims (and catholics and Co$ and whoever else) who might be inclined to set themselves on fire to do so.  So long, of course, as they go the whole distance.  Heck, I&#8217;ll even sweep up the ashes myself.  I say go for it!</p>
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