Comments on: maybe

By: Ophelia Benson

Ophelia Benson — Fri, 08 May 2009 00:20:12 +0000

“From the back seat our resident feminist came straight back with “The world and her husband!”. This girl also was heard to remark at the end of the song Summer the first time by Bobby Goldsborough “If he thinks that’s all it takes to make him a man he’s got another think coming as well”.”

Blah blah blah.

Have any of you entrenched members of the boys’ club considered the possibility that the barmaid is also a feminist? Have you considered the possibility that dear author is a feminist? You all certainly seem awfully confident that they’re not – that I’m the oddity around here and you’re all Normal.

Well, fuck it; if it’s a boys’ club you can have it to yourselves.

By: DonR

DonR — Wed, 06 May 2009 07:17:56 +0000

@Paper Hand & JonnieCanuck

The busty and blonde was personal preference, it had nothing to do with the point I was making. Interesting that you both should focus on it so.

By: jerry w

jerry w — Wed, 06 May 2009 02:59:53 +0000

JMo,
Three feet tall, yes. Flat head, yes.
As for the “etc.,” part: “And her father owns the bar. ”
That would be the compete description as I remember it.

By: Beggars Belief

Beggars Belief — Tue, 05 May 2009 21:34:57 +0000

Mike: it’s not the people I disrespect, it’s their religious beliefs. I respect them as human beings, with the right to think and do what they want (as long as it doesn’t harm anyone). However, they believe in bollocks and I have no respect for their choice to believe it. In exactly the same way I have no respect for Tories.

By: JMo

JMo — Tue, 05 May 2009 20:08:35 +0000

The really cool thing is; much like our personal beliefs in this deity/no deity, is that barmaid can be whatever we decide she is. In fact I think she is three feet tall with a flat head, etc. but thats just me.

By: Stonyground

Stonyground — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:49:21 +0000

On the subject of the assumed male, I used to pack my car with karate types to go to competitions. On one occasion I remarked that just as I wanted to pull out onto a main road, the world and his wife decide to drive past. From the back seat our resident feminist came straight back with “The world and her husband!”. This girl also was heard to remark at the end of the song Summer the first time by Bobby Goldsborough “If he thinks that’s all it takes to make him a man he’s got another think coming as well”.

My image of the barmaid is not very tall, quite busty, slightly plump and with a big bottom. Pretty much like Mrs. Stonyground in fact.

By: JohnnieCanuck

JohnnieCanuck — Tue, 05 May 2009 17:28:32 +0000

Pub regular: “Why are you acting all pissed off at me?”
Barmaid: “I’m not acting, Don. I am pissed off at you. You assume things about people based only on appearance.”

She could as easily be a flaming redhead, couldn’t she?

By: Paper Hand

Paper Hand — Tue, 05 May 2009 08:05:58 +0000

Considering we never actually *see* the Barmaid, it’s interesting that you assume she’s busty and blonde …

By: DonR

DonR — Tue, 05 May 2009 00:09:26 +0000

This one is not up to Author’s usual standard. It had potential through frame 1-3, then Barmaid became a busty, blonde version of J&M.

By: J. Steve White

J. Steve White — Mon, 04 May 2009 21:20:08 +0000

mishahu :”Hey! Barmaid is using the same circular logic that she usually reasons against. Excellent that it’s good enough to convince J&M.”

There’s no circular logic. She’s not trying to prove anything (as J and M are usually doing with circular logic). She’s explaining that Atheists are SHOWING that because they FEEL that. One might certainly contest the accuracy of the statement, but it’s not a syllogism, or a logical argument, but an expository one.

grouchy-one: “No, you’re not allowed to say that! It’s a logical paradox and that is intolerable.”

There’s no logical paradox here. That’s an argument too many apologists make, and too many skeptics/non-apologists/non-christians have fallen for. There is no paradox; this is the embodiment of the “equal protection” doctrine. Tolerance + equal protection == “Tolerate everything but intolerance”; no paradox inheres, it’s just that it’s sometimes thorny to puzzle out the boundary cases between them.

By: B

Mon, 04 May 2009 20:02:14 +0000

Can somebody tell me why I must have respect for people that outsource their conscience and shun responsibility for their own actions?

By: Stonyground

Stonyground — Mon, 04 May 2009 13:52:33 +0000

JohnnieCanuck
I am mainly referring to more general stuff about history and Science as well as the actual tenets of their own religion that there is a general ignorance about among the godly people who write to their local rag. It is quite fun to quote the Bible at them when it is obvious from their statements that they don’t have a clue what is actually in it.

By: Specops17

Specops17 — Mon, 04 May 2009 13:49:08 +0000

“So a neighbor is always a man?

Assumed male strikes again.”

I don’t get it. Are you bent outta shape because of “neighbor’s belief…his wife…”? For reals? Wow!

Butterfliesandwheels.com Interesting.

By: kiyaroru

kiyaroru — Mon, 04 May 2009 13:18:32 +0000

Ophelia

The assumed male neighbor is an assumed male only when wrong about his wife and children.

By: Aykavil

Aykavil — Mon, 04 May 2009 12:16:56 +0000

A prequel to October 16th, 2007…

By: Steelman

Steelman — Mon, 04 May 2009 03:08:44 +0000

“So a neighbor is always a man?”

H.L. Mencken made that assumption, before Mike butchered him in the comments section…;-)

By: Mr Gronk

Mr Gronk — Mon, 04 May 2009 01:51:32 +0000

Tautological barmaid is tautological.

Still funny.

By: Ophelia Benson

Ophelia Benson — Sun, 03 May 2009 22:41:32 +0000

“In matters of private faith, it falls into the same category as respecting your neighbor’s belief that his wife is beautiful and his children are geniuses. You may not agree, but it’s none of your business.”

So a neighbor is always a man?

Assumed male strikes again.

By: JohnnieCanuck

JohnnieCanuck — Sun, 03 May 2009 18:40:09 +0000

which they tend to do rather a lot.

Gotta love that tradition of understatement in Jolly Old’. I’m still waiting for that first verified fact claim made in support of religious evangelism.

By: Stonyground

Stonyground — Sun, 03 May 2009 10:06:27 +0000

The problem that I have with this notion that atheists are dishonest, selfish, have miserable and pointless lives etc. is that proof to the contrary is everywhere. There are millions of us here in the UK and in no way are we less trustworthy, generous, law abiding or happy than those who have imaginary freinds.

Mike, I do up to a point want to convert people to my worldview because I think the world would be a better place as a consequence. However, I believe in only evangalising in self defence, that is writing to letter columns, blogs etc. to counter arguments from the other side, especially when they get their facts wrong, which they tend to do rather a lot.