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	<description>Two prophets, living together.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-170161</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note Mo always drives. It&#039;s clear who&#039;s wearing the trousers round here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note Mo always drives. It&#8217;s clear who&#8217;s wearing the trousers round here.</p>
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		<title>By: Exchanging religious opinions with respect &#171; Random Ntrygg</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-166814</link>
		<dc:creator>Exchanging religious opinions with respect &#171; Random Ntrygg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] March 21, 2010 Exchanging religious opinions with&#160;respect Posted by nktrygg under Atheism, lesbian, rants &#124; Tags: conclusions, confirmation bias, debate, logic, religious views, respect &#124; Leave a Comment&#160;  A common lament in believer &#8211; non-believer discussions is believers demanding respect for their beliefs or the sincerity of it and sometimes for themselves. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] March 21, 2010 Exchanging religious opinions with&nbsp;respect Posted by nktrygg under Atheism, lesbian, rants | Tags: conclusions, confirmation bias, debate, logic, religious views, respect | Leave a Comment&nbsp;  A common lament in believer &#8211; non-believer discussions is believers demanding respect for their beliefs or the sincerity of it and sometimes for themselves. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ednorandrewrowe</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-150017</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting w/o moderation! But maybe could you arrange by most recent comment leads, vs. buried at bottom of stack? (I suppose this would be too Biblical, what with Jesus putting &quot;new wine in new wine skins&quot; and His affiriming that &quot;many who are first shall be last, and many who are last, first...&quot; lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting w/o moderation! But maybe could you arrange by most recent comment leads, vs. buried at bottom of stack? (I suppose this would be too Biblical, what with Jesus putting &#8220;new wine in new wine skins&#8221; and His affiriming that &#8220;many who are first shall be last, and many who are last, first&#8230;&#8221; lol</p>
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		<title>By: ednorandrewrowe</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-150016</link>
		<dc:creator>ednorandrewrowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sort of weird Jesus character setting up a straw man to blow down, re: faith.  John makes it clear that crowds STILL did not believe Christ 2 B God even after they saw ALL HIS MIRACLES, just prior to his death, though many came to see risen Lazarus during Jesus&#039; final trip into Jerusalem, a man raised from the dead in presence of many eyewitnesses.  So many in fact, that chief priests ALSO decided to execute Lazarus, because his presence was such an aid to FACT BASED BELIEF in Christ.  So, Jesus showed that 3 years of SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIED and witnessed miracles still did not overcome our aversion to believing there is a personal God with whom we deal.

In fact, same passage says many even of leaders believed on Christ but since Pharisees would put them out of synagogue, similar to never making PhD, nowadays, I guess, they kept quiet, because they preferred the praise of fellow men over the praise of the living Father, God...

So again, my PERSONAL problem is, say, believing Christ, and even realizing, say, that he has giving me the POWER and framework to forgive someone, but retaliating against them just the same, or having a habit I know I can kick, but liking the habit more than wholeness, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of weird Jesus character setting up a straw man to blow down, re: faith.  John makes it clear that crowds STILL did not believe Christ 2 B God even after they saw ALL HIS MIRACLES, just prior to his death, though many came to see risen Lazarus during Jesus&#8217; final trip into Jerusalem, a man raised from the dead in presence of many eyewitnesses.  So many in fact, that chief priests ALSO decided to execute Lazarus, because his presence was such an aid to FACT BASED BELIEF in Christ.  So, Jesus showed that 3 years of SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIED and witnessed miracles still did not overcome our aversion to believing there is a personal God with whom we deal.</p>
<p>In fact, same passage says many even of leaders believed on Christ but since Pharisees would put them out of synagogue, similar to never making PhD, nowadays, I guess, they kept quiet, because they preferred the praise of fellow men over the praise of the living Father, God&#8230;</p>
<p>So again, my PERSONAL problem is, say, believing Christ, and even realizing, say, that he has giving me the POWER and framework to forgive someone, but retaliating against them just the same, or having a habit I know I can kick, but liking the habit more than wholeness, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnieCanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132386</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnieCanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess in the absence of any reliable evidence, one should not make any strong claims for existence or non-existence of a physical man. On that specific subject I can claim to be agnostic.

Maybe there was an otherwise unremarkable man around whom rumours and claims began to swirl until people started to build a legend around him. Perhaps there were several such stories about different men that were merged. Certainly the Mithras legend was folded in. Ancient prophecies came to pass by the simple expedient of making stuff up, to fit.

If doubting all of the magic stuff, from Immaculate Conception through Ascension is reasonable, how does doubting that the mundane 5% remaining, crosses a line and is unacceptable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess in the absence of any reliable evidence, one should not make any strong claims for existence or non-existence of a physical man. On that specific subject I can claim to be agnostic.</p>
<p>Maybe there was an otherwise unremarkable man around whom rumours and claims began to swirl until people started to build a legend around him. Perhaps there were several such stories about different men that were merged. Certainly the Mithras legend was folded in. Ancient prophecies came to pass by the simple expedient of making stuff up, to fit.</p>
<p>If doubting all of the magic stuff, from Immaculate Conception through Ascension is reasonable, how does doubting that the mundane 5% remaining, crosses a line and is unacceptable?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggs</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132334</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, sorry Johnny Canuk, I didn&#039;t mean your comment was bigoted, I should have punctuated better it wasn&#039;t supposed to run quite so together as it appeared.  My comment was aimed to question your implication that the guy called Jesus, Yeshua etc didn&#039;t exist.  Whether or not the magic actually happened is another subject.

The comment about bigotry was more general, there seems to be a tone developing overall here, that is a bit exclusive and maybe leads to the same melting pot of religious bigotry we find with all fundementalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, sorry Johnny Canuk, I didn&#8217;t mean your comment was bigoted, I should have punctuated better it wasn&#8217;t supposed to run quite so together as it appeared.  My comment was aimed to question your implication that the guy called Jesus, Yeshua etc didn&#8217;t exist.  Whether or not the magic actually happened is another subject.</p>
<p>The comment about bigotry was more general, there seems to be a tone developing overall here, that is a bit exclusive and maybe leads to the same melting pot of religious bigotry we find with all fundementalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132280</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what is wrong with the world today, it&#039;s people like the Barmaid misusing fideism to get rich quick at the expense of true believers.

Plus, Poor Richard, you have an office cat? I want to work where you work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what is wrong with the world today, it&#8217;s people like the Barmaid misusing fideism to get rich quick at the expense of true believers.</p>
<p>Plus, Poor Richard, you have an office cat? I want to work where you work.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132168</link>
		<dc:creator>JoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO!!! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD THINK WHAT YOU ARE DOING??!! DON&#039;T YOU REALISE THAT FIDEISM IS THE BASIS OF OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO!!! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD THINK WHAT YOU ARE DOING??!! DON&#8217;T YOU REALISE THAT FIDEISM IS THE BASIS OF OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ketil G</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ketil G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-) :-) hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.jesusandmo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.jesusandmo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Poor Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/02/04/truth/#comment-132150</link>
		<dc:creator>Poor Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, our office cat pushes his bowl toward the food storage cupboard and looks up with his big trusting eyes, and it works every time.  By the way, Mo has become more capable of detecting sarcasm!  Also, &quot;happy,&quot; I&#039;m glad you reminded us how
often we hear, &quot;I&#039;m OK to drive!&quot;  One well-lit friend even said, &quot;Oh, have a little faith.&quot;  He got away from us, but he did make it home, so I guess he was right.

I haven&#039;t made that mistake since the locomotive knocked me off the 300-foot cliff into the raging river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, our office cat pushes his bowl toward the food storage cupboard and looks up with his big trusting eyes, and it works every time.  By the way, Mo has become more capable of detecting sarcasm!  Also, &#8220;happy,&#8221; I&#8217;m glad you reminded us how<br />
often we hear, &#8220;I&#8217;m OK to drive!&#8221;  One well-lit friend even said, &#8220;Oh, have a little faith.&#8221;  He got away from us, but he did make it home, so I guess he was right.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t made that mistake since the locomotive knocked me off the 300-foot cliff into the raging river.</p>
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