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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-132182</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. &quot;I married into a family of Jehovahâ€™s Witnesses (although my wife was obviously not one) and they took great delight in telling me the world was only 6000 years old.&quot;

Odd, since that is not a Witness belief.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20040622/article_03.htm

This article is, in many ways, good for a laugh, but it does at least show that the Witnesses do not believe in a 6,000-year-old Earth. They do believe, though, in 6,000 years of human life on the Earth, which may be where some confusion arises.

2. &quot;Their heaven only allows 144,000 souls.&quot;

True. Many others, it is said, will live eternally here on Earth after it&#039;s been cleaned up. There was a famous talk a few years ago with the title &quot;Millions Now Living Will Never Die&quot;.

http://www.lulu.com/content/116824

3. &quot;The real cracker was the failure of the world to end in 1979,80,81.82 ..... They genuinely believed this was going to happen - all of them.&quot;

Not true. Some of these dates were bigger than others. (1975 was the biggie.) My mother recalls many being swept up by them, but maintains that not everyone was. She wasn&#039;t herself, she says. And I&#039;m inclined to believe her.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;sourceid=navclient&amp;gfns=1&amp;q=jehovah+1975

4. &quot;The reason the world did not end was due to a scriptural discrepancy. In Genesis it says something about Adam having to count up all the animals in the Garden of Eden. The get out of jail card is that there are obviously far more animals than was originally thought and this unquantifiable extra effort is what is allowing us all to live on borrowed time before the great upheaval.&quot;

I&#039;ve never heard that one before. Really, never. I must look it up.

5. &quot;The 144,000 comes from Revelations, so to get to heaven you have to be a Jewish male.&quot;

Now, that would be logical (for a given value of &quot;teapot&quot;), but it&#039;s not what the Witnesses believe.

Phew. It&#039;s a long time since I&#039;ve thought about this stuff.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. &#8220;I married into a family of Jehovahâ€™s Witnesses (although my wife was obviously not one) and they took great delight in telling me the world was only 6000 years old.&#8221;</p>
<p>Odd, since that is not a Witness belief.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.watchtower.org/e/20040622/article_03.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.watchtower.org/e/20040622/article_03.htm</a></p>
<p>This article is, in many ways, good for a laugh, but it does at least show that the Witnesses do not believe in a 6,000-year-old Earth. They do believe, though, in 6,000 years of human life on the Earth, which may be where some confusion arises.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Their heaven only allows 144,000 souls.&#8221;</p>
<p>True. Many others, it is said, will live eternally here on Earth after it&#8217;s been cleaned up. There was a famous talk a few years ago with the title &#8220;Millions Now Living Will Never Die&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/116824" rel="nofollow">http://www.lulu.com/content/116824</a></p>
<p>3. &#8220;The real cracker was the failure of the world to end in 1979,80,81.82 &#8230;.. They genuinely believed this was going to happen &#8211; all of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not true. Some of these dates were bigger than others. (1975 was the biggie.) My mother recalls many being swept up by them, but maintains that not everyone was. She wasn&#8217;t herself, she says. And I&#8217;m inclined to believe her.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&#038;oe=UTF-8&#038;sourceid=navclient&#038;gfns=1&#038;q=jehovah+1975" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&#038;oe=UTF-8&#038;sourceid=navclient&#038;gfns=1&#038;q=jehovah+1975</a></p>
<p>4. &#8220;The reason the world did not end was due to a scriptural discrepancy. In Genesis it says something about Adam having to count up all the animals in the Garden of Eden. The get out of jail card is that there are obviously far more animals than was originally thought and this unquantifiable extra effort is what is allowing us all to live on borrowed time before the great upheaval.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard that one before. Really, never. I must look it up.</p>
<p>5. &#8220;The 144,000 comes from Revelations, so to get to heaven you have to be a Jewish male.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, that would be logical (for a given value of &#8220;teapot&#8221;), but it&#8217;s not what the Witnesses believe.</p>
<p>Phew. It&#8217;s a long time since I&#8217;ve thought about this stuff.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: Centre</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131912</link>
		<dc:creator>Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John the Geo,
I care, I want to know the truth about how screwed up they are.  Wouldn&#039;t most people like this cartoon because they&#039;re interested in how these delusions are affecting us all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John the Geo,<br />
I care, I want to know the truth about how screwed up they are.  Wouldn&#8217;t most people like this cartoon because they&#8217;re interested in how these delusions are affecting us all?</p>
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		<title>By: John The Geologist</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131542</link>
		<dc:creator>John The Geologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Trig

Don&#039;t bust a gut over it.

You might have guessed from this site that we don&#039;t fucking care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Trig</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bust a gut over it.</p>
<p>You might have guessed from this site that we don&#8217;t fucking care.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131528</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, lads, I&#039;m an ex-Witness, and some of your descriptions of their beliefs are, to be charitable, a little off. But I&#039;m in work at the moment. I&#039;ll put you all right tomorrow, maybe.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, lads, I&#8217;m an ex-Witness, and some of your descriptions of their beliefs are, to be charitable, a little off. But I&#8217;m in work at the moment. I&#8217;ll put you all right tomorrow, maybe.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: ann44</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131473</link>
		<dc:creator>ann44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: JakeS</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131460</link>
		<dc:creator>JakeS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, it&#039;s like a pyramid scam: The more you recruit, the better your chances are. Or something like that, anyway.

Ponzi scams worked for Thatcher. Why shouldn&#039;t they work for God?

- Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, it&#8217;s like a pyramid scam: The more you recruit, the better your chances are. Or something like that, anyway.</p>
<p>Ponzi scams worked for Thatcher. Why shouldn&#8217;t they work for God?</p>
<p>- Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Repent -you know it makes sense</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131458</link>
		<dc:creator>Repent -you know it makes sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 144,000 comes from Revelations, so to get to heaven you have to be a jewish male.
The rest of the saved live eternally on earth, that has been made into a paradise by God and are controlled by Jesus with the help of the 144,000.
So presumably Global Warming is not an issue for JW&#039;s.
Also if their friends and family aren&#039;t of the faith they have to live for all time solely in the company of the drips they walk door to door with.
So why waste time living with your family now, shack up with your fellow witnesses straight away, its what God wants surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 144,000 comes from Revelations, so to get to heaven you have to be a jewish male.<br />
The rest of the saved live eternally on earth, that has been made into a paradise by God and are controlled by Jesus with the help of the 144,000.<br />
So presumably Global Warming is not an issue for JW&#8217;s.<br />
Also if their friends and family aren&#8217;t of the faith they have to live for all time solely in the company of the drips they walk door to door with.<br />
So why waste time living with your family now, shack up with your fellow witnesses straight away, its what God wants surely.</p>
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		<title>By: Paper Hand</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131451</link>
		<dc:creator>Paper Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 144,000 bit always confused me, when combined with their active evangelism.  If you really thought that there were only 144,000 slots in heaven ... wouldn&#039;t you want to maximize your odds of getting one of those slots by keeping the competition down?  Every new convert is another potential rival!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 144,000 bit always confused me, when combined with their active evangelism.  If you really thought that there were only 144,000 slots in heaven &#8230; wouldn&#8217;t you want to maximize your odds of getting one of those slots by keeping the competition down?  Every new convert is another potential rival!</p>
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		<title>By: John The Geologist</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131446</link>
		<dc:creator>John The Geologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jmo

The Witlesses got around that one. (It was one of my first arguments against their particular brand of bullshit).

I think (and lets face it,  this is not an exact science as their beliefs change all the time) that the 144K go to heaven to sit with dog and the rest come back to &quot;heaven on earth&quot;.

They obviously sussed the 144K limit to the numbers of the gullible thay could attract many moons ago and tweaked their bullshit accordingly.

The real cracker was the failure of the world to end in 1979,80,81.82  . . . .

They genuinely believed this was going to happen - all of them. My mother in law was genuinely delighted at the prospect (even when I pointed out that her non-believer husband would not join her. Maybe that is why she was so delighted).

The reason the world did not end was due to a scriptural discrepancy. In genesis (the part of the bible not the crap band) it says something about Adam having to count up all the animals in the Garden of Eden (although exactly why this was necessary is a mystery to me given that dog presumably created them all in the first place and should therefore have reasonably accurate inventory management). 

The get out of jail card is that there are obviously far more animals than was originally thought and this unquantifiable extra effort is what is allowing us all  to live on borrowed time before the great upheaval (when all the graves open up, the witless zombies pour forth and heaven is created on earth).

So we are all doooomed, dooooomed I tell ye.

I couldn&#039;t drink or smoke enough to make up crap like this.

AUTHOR - any chance of a pop at the witlesses ? You know it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jmo</p>
<p>The Witlesses got around that one. (It was one of my first arguments against their particular brand of bullshit).</p>
<p>I think (and lets face it,  this is not an exact science as their beliefs change all the time) that the 144K go to heaven to sit with dog and the rest come back to &#8220;heaven on earth&#8221;.</p>
<p>They obviously sussed the 144K limit to the numbers of the gullible thay could attract many moons ago and tweaked their bullshit accordingly.</p>
<p>The real cracker was the failure of the world to end in 1979,80,81.82  . . . .</p>
<p>They genuinely believed this was going to happen &#8211; all of them. My mother in law was genuinely delighted at the prospect (even when I pointed out that her non-believer husband would not join her. Maybe that is why she was so delighted).</p>
<p>The reason the world did not end was due to a scriptural discrepancy. In genesis (the part of the bible not the crap band) it says something about Adam having to count up all the animals in the Garden of Eden (although exactly why this was necessary is a mystery to me given that dog presumably created them all in the first place and should therefore have reasonably accurate inventory management). </p>
<p>The get out of jail card is that there are obviously far more animals than was originally thought and this unquantifiable extra effort is what is allowing us all  to live on borrowed time before the great upheaval (when all the graves open up, the witless zombies pour forth and heaven is created on earth).</p>
<p>So we are all doooomed, dooooomed I tell ye.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t drink or smoke enough to make up crap like this.</p>
<p>AUTHOR &#8211; any chance of a pop at the witlesses ? You know it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: JMo</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2009/01/28/miss/#comment-131441</link>
		<dc:creator>JMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always point out to the Witnesses that they must be extremely optimistic due to the fact that thier heaven only allows 144,000 souls.  New recruitment would seem to be harder and harder as the spots were taken up but hey what do I know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always point out to the Witnesses that they must be extremely optimistic due to the fact that thier heaven only allows 144,000 souls.  New recruitment would seem to be harder and harder as the spots were taken up but hey what do I know&#8230;.</p>
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