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		<title>By: Emanuel Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-129398</link>
		<dc:creator>Emanuel Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WideAwake, your statement that they might simply exist is on the order of the 6 year old, when asked the reason for his actions, says &quot;becau</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WideAwake, your statement that they might simply exist is on the order of the 6 year old, when asked the reason for his actions, says &#8220;becau</p>
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		<title>By: Inventing The Answers &#124; I Eat Gravel</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-128024</link>
		<dc:creator>Inventing The Answers &#124; I Eat Gravel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Was der Wissenschaft fehlt &#124; Seelsuche - Naturalismus, Humanismus, AufklÃ¤rung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Was der Wissenschaft fehlt &#124; Seelsuche - Naturalismus, Humanismus, AufklÃ¤rung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WideAwake</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-127674</link>
		<dc:creator>WideAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very question of &quot;why&quot; betrays a mindset that things happen for a reason which has a function in a rational, predictive mind. Should &quot;we,&quot; or &quot;beauty&quot; have a purpose? Might they not simply exist, without having been preconceived or judged? 

Seemingly that thought never occurred to anyone who commented so far. Quite possibly it did, however, to the cartoonist. Perhaps that&#039;s what the cartoon&#039;s &quot;purpose&quot; was: to make us think about purpose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very question of &#8220;why&#8221; betrays a mindset that things happen for a reason which has a function in a rational, predictive mind. Should &#8220;we,&#8221; or &#8220;beauty&#8221; have a purpose? Might they not simply exist, without having been preconceived or judged? </p>
<p>Seemingly that thought never occurred to anyone who commented so far. Quite possibly it did, however, to the cartoonist. Perhaps that&#8217;s what the cartoon&#8217;s &#8220;purpose&#8221; was: to make us think about purpose!</p>
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		<title>By: Poor Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126888</link>
		<dc:creator>Poor Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omigod, Ophelia, you got it all started again.  However, everybody already knows you are the barmaid.  Since I&#039;ve seen your picture and read some of your excellent stuff, I think you fill the role perfectly.  

I am in agreement by the bucketful
about theology.  When I was in college, we read all those popular new theologians
who worked SOOO hard to avoid the issue of Christ&#039;s divinity.  I should have gone into it--I&#039;d never have to be wrong in the classroom.  

Now to the issue:  the tap handle just might be a finger unto the world.  But, yes,  of course, it is also a member of the phallic set.  In which case I supppose the wide, copious, invitiing, dark glass of stout (never cold!) is yonic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omigod, Ophelia, you got it all started again.  However, everybody already knows you are the barmaid.  Since I&#8217;ve seen your picture and read some of your excellent stuff, I think you fill the role perfectly.  </p>
<p>I am in agreement by the bucketful<br />
about theology.  When I was in college, we read all those popular new theologians<br />
who worked SOOO hard to avoid the issue of Christ&#8217;s divinity.  I should have gone into it&#8211;I&#8217;d never have to be wrong in the classroom.  </p>
<p>Now to the issue:  the tap handle just might be a finger unto the world.  But, yes,  of course, it is also a member of the phallic set.  In which case I supppose the wide, copious, invitiing, dark glass of stout (never cold!) is yonic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobrag</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jobrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dubbie 
Guinness isn&#039;t beer it&#039;s stout, and it could be mild that they are drinking that&#039;s often black.
Jobrag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dubbie<br />
Guinness isn&#8217;t beer it&#8217;s stout, and it could be mild that they are drinking that&#8217;s often black.<br />
Jobrag</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126862</link>
		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To um...

You need to see the very first Jesus and Mo publication.  It explains how it isn&#039;t Mo being depicted but a body double.</description>
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<p>You need to see the very first Jesus and Mo publication.  It explains how it isn&#8217;t Mo being depicted but a body double.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126834</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t actually think they&#039;re aesthetic questions at all. 

These are all personal opinion, or *potential* answers.  I&#039;m not saying here that I have the answers.  So, in Joe&#039;s order:

We may be here, as a recent study suggested, as &quot;energy conduits&quot;.  Redistributing energy from the Sun, with the intent to bring energy transfer to equilibrium.  We could simply be the agents of entropy.

Many species use visual attractants like birds, flowers, etc.  Perhaps if beauty can be explained as the human response to these same traits in &quot;lower&quot; animals, then it&#039;s easy to explain the purpose of beauty in evolutionary terms.

Compassion results in a higher level of genetic diversity, since each act of compassion increases the chances of an individual&#039;s survival.  Diversity in the gene pool allows greater adaptability to adverse conditions (when considers from the perspective of the human race as a super-organism) and contributes to the continuing success of the species.

I find it very hard to believe that we won&#039;t be able to explain everything in our observable universe, given enough time, in natural terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t actually think they&#8217;re aesthetic questions at all. </p>
<p>These are all personal opinion, or *potential* answers.  I&#8217;m not saying here that I have the answers.  So, in Joe&#8217;s order:</p>
<p>We may be here, as a recent study suggested, as &#8220;energy conduits&#8221;.  Redistributing energy from the Sun, with the intent to bring energy transfer to equilibrium.  We could simply be the agents of entropy.</p>
<p>Many species use visual attractants like birds, flowers, etc.  Perhaps if beauty can be explained as the human response to these same traits in &#8220;lower&#8221; animals, then it&#8217;s easy to explain the purpose of beauty in evolutionary terms.</p>
<p>Compassion results in a higher level of genetic diversity, since each act of compassion increases the chances of an individual&#8217;s survival.  Diversity in the gene pool allows greater adaptability to adverse conditions (when considers from the perspective of the human race as a super-organism) and contributes to the continuing success of the species.</p>
<p>I find it very hard to believe that we won&#8217;t be able to explain everything in our observable universe, given enough time, in natural terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamidreza</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126807</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamidreza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - Thanks.  If you can add more to the issue of (quite often dastardly) ill-composed language, I am all ears.

On the question of aesthetics - I need some clarification.  Lets remove/reduce out of aesthetics the following:  1- brain pleasure centers as evolved for survival (probably the largest component) - and I include in here &quot;higher pleasures&quot; like seeing an offspring succeed, anti-depression mechanisms so that the organism does not commit suicide, etc.,  2- composition of arbitrary value systems (e.g. it is &quot;good&quot; to be compassionate to the poor) - IOW making up rules for the game, based on some non-empirical/ideological motive that tickles the intellectual center of the mind.

Question is:  If you factor out of aesthetics the pleasue center and essentially arbitrary value system composition activity -- what is left of aesthetics?  Anything left there?

If there is nothing left, then why do we have aesthetics?

Thanks for each and all answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; Thanks.  If you can add more to the issue of (quite often dastardly) ill-composed language, I am all ears.</p>
<p>On the question of aesthetics &#8211; I need some clarification.  Lets remove/reduce out of aesthetics the following:  1- brain pleasure centers as evolved for survival (probably the largest component) &#8211; and I include in here &#8220;higher pleasures&#8221; like seeing an offspring succeed, anti-depression mechanisms so that the organism does not commit suicide, etc.,  2- composition of arbitrary value systems (e.g. it is &#8220;good&#8221; to be compassionate to the poor) &#8211; IOW making up rules for the game, based on some non-empirical/ideological motive that tickles the intellectual center of the mind.</p>
<p>Question is:  If you factor out of aesthetics the pleasue center and essentially arbitrary value system composition activity &#8212; what is left of aesthetics?  Anything left there?</p>
<p>If there is nothing left, then why do we have aesthetics?</p>
<p>Thanks for each and all answers.</p>
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		<title>By: evilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/17/edge/#comment-126782</link>
		<dc:creator>evilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe, i think i love you.  i&#039;ve been having this conversation/argument for years with a friend &amp; either the intention is to not understand my point or to not understand period.  ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe, i think i love you.  i&#8217;ve been having this conversation/argument for years with a friend &amp; either the intention is to not understand my point or to not understand period.  ^_^</p>
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