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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-119804</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That was Hitler telling the useful idiots what they wanted to hear.&quot;

Well quite. Whatever Hitler&#039;s private beliefs were (and we&#039;ll never know), he couched his public pronouncements in the language of Christianity, knowing that this would go down well with the masses. This would not have worked had Germany not been primarily Christian. Ergo, Nazi Germany was, in general terms, a Christian nation (at least as Christian as the modern USA, anyway).

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That was Hitler telling the useful idiots what they wanted to hear.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well quite. Whatever Hitler&#8217;s private beliefs were (and we&#8217;ll never know), he couched his public pronouncements in the language of Christianity, knowing that this would go down well with the masses. This would not have worked had Germany not been primarily Christian. Ergo, Nazi Germany was, in general terms, a Christian nation (at least as Christian as the modern USA, anyway).</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: YHVH</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-106203</link>
		<dc:creator>YHVH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, about Hitler, nazis and atheism, just search &quot;gott mit uns&quot; or visit

http://www.bowness.demon.co.uk/belt.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, about Hitler, nazis and atheism, just search &#8220;gott mit uns&#8221; or visit</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bowness.demon.co.uk/belt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bowness.demon.co.uk/belt.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hobbes</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-105900</link>
		<dc:creator>Hobbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ticticboom, the right seems to have a serious problem relating to intelligence (as opposed to Bush and McSame), and charisma (dido), such as that displayed by Obama.

More irrationally, they have a real problem with logic. They believe someone&#039;s name given to them at birth has something to do with what they think throughout life. This is evident in their total freak-out at Obama&#039;s name.

More astonishingly, they have a real problem understanding the establishment clause of the First Amendment. They seem to believe freedom of religion extends only to Christians. This isn&#039;t lost on any politician. Obama MUST assure the poorly educated voting population (probably about half of all voters) that he is a Christian, while the right wing operatives pound doubt into their minds.

It all adds up to at least half this nation being scared little citizens who must have an authoritarian daddy (like their choice a god, and their choice of political leaders) to tuck them in at night and cover them with thick blankets.

Personally, I liked the scene of 200,000 Germans cheering and many waving U.S. flags. It&#039;s good to have a potential leader who is intent on bringing understanding to the world instead of bombs and death.

For all the above reasons, I think that if the Neo-cons become convinced Obama will win in November, they will first announce that he is under investigation in connection with the purchase of his home (trumped up evidence), and if that does not work, they will have him killed in late October. The Neo-cons have so fully politicized every department of government, I don&#039;t see them just letting it all be reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ticticboom, the right seems to have a serious problem relating to intelligence (as opposed to Bush and McSame), and charisma (dido), such as that displayed by Obama.</p>
<p>More irrationally, they have a real problem with logic. They believe someone&#8217;s name given to them at birth has something to do with what they think throughout life. This is evident in their total freak-out at Obama&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>More astonishingly, they have a real problem understanding the establishment clause of the First Amendment. They seem to believe freedom of religion extends only to Christians. This isn&#8217;t lost on any politician. Obama MUST assure the poorly educated voting population (probably about half of all voters) that he is a Christian, while the right wing operatives pound doubt into their minds.</p>
<p>It all adds up to at least half this nation being scared little citizens who must have an authoritarian daddy (like their choice a god, and their choice of political leaders) to tuck them in at night and cover them with thick blankets.</p>
<p>Personally, I liked the scene of 200,000 Germans cheering and many waving U.S. flags. It&#8217;s good to have a potential leader who is intent on bringing understanding to the world instead of bombs and death.</p>
<p>For all the above reasons, I think that if the Neo-cons become convinced Obama will win in November, they will first announce that he is under investigation in connection with the purchase of his home (trumped up evidence), and if that does not work, they will have him killed in late October. The Neo-cons have so fully politicized every department of government, I don&#8217;t see them just letting it all be reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: Poor Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-104468</link>
		<dc:creator>Poor Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar:  yeah, it looks like I threw some wood on this fire and it exploded.
But shucks--how else can we be sure that EVERYONE gets offended?  I&#039;ll
have to restudy my model, Grandfather Ben, who tried so hard to learn at
least an appearance of Modesty, so as not to offend and to guarantee himself an audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oscar:  yeah, it looks like I threw some wood on this fire and it exploded.<br />
But shucks&#8211;how else can we be sure that EVERYONE gets offended?  I&#8217;ll<br />
have to restudy my model, Grandfather Ben, who tried so hard to learn at<br />
least an appearance of Modesty, so as not to offend and to guarantee himself an audience.</p>
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		<title>By: nonsuch</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-104407</link>
		<dc:creator>nonsuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thanks for the quotes, Toast.  I think ticticboom&#039;s comments have been, well, turned to toast!

Of course, it will not do any good. You know, of course, that Hitler was a bad and nasty man and there&#039;s no way that Christians would do such nasty nazi stuff because that is, well UNchristian...therefore Hitler was an atheist and the Germans who did all that nasty killing were atheists. Everything he said and did doesn&#039;t count...I&#039;ve got a couple of quotes from some book that came out after his death with some dubious quotes from his chambermaid (what better authority do you need? she was right there!)where he says some negative things about Christianity, so there...he must have been an &quot;atheist&quot; -- Take that! 

And Hitler rounded up the atheists (= bolshevists, all atheists were bolshevists and all bolshevists were atheists in Hitler&#039;s mind) and put them in concentration camps before he started on the Jews (political prisoners first), but that just shows you how bad atheists are because they turn on themselves and have no morals! 

It is a well-known fact that, when one becomes an atheist, one suddenly wakes up one morning with an irrational hatred for Jewish people and an uncontrollable urge to round them up and start killing them....

Yeah, tictoc, a lack of a belief in fairies leads to wanting to exterminate Jewish people...that explains the holocaust perfectly. Well done, you&#039;re such an insighful genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thanks for the quotes, Toast.  I think ticticboom&#8217;s comments have been, well, turned to toast!</p>
<p>Of course, it will not do any good. You know, of course, that Hitler was a bad and nasty man and there&#8217;s no way that Christians would do such nasty nazi stuff because that is, well UNchristian&#8230;therefore Hitler was an atheist and the Germans who did all that nasty killing were atheists. Everything he said and did doesn&#8217;t count&#8230;I&#8217;ve got a couple of quotes from some book that came out after his death with some dubious quotes from his chambermaid (what better authority do you need? she was right there!)where he says some negative things about Christianity, so there&#8230;he must have been an &#8220;atheist&#8221; &#8212; Take that! </p>
<p>And Hitler rounded up the atheists (= bolshevists, all atheists were bolshevists and all bolshevists were atheists in Hitler&#8217;s mind) and put them in concentration camps before he started on the Jews (political prisoners first), but that just shows you how bad atheists are because they turn on themselves and have no morals! </p>
<p>It is a well-known fact that, when one becomes an atheist, one suddenly wakes up one morning with an irrational hatred for Jewish people and an uncontrollable urge to round them up and start killing them&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yeah, tictoc, a lack of a belief in fairies leads to wanting to exterminate Jewish people&#8230;that explains the holocaust perfectly. Well done, you&#8217;re such an insighful genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-104248</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY LOOK RELIGION IS MENTIONED LET&#039;S FIGHT

If you don&#039;t find it funny, don&#039;t come here. This is a great webcomic, but in my opinion the comment section is not really necessary since all it does is start religious arguments. I know my statement makes this post a bit ironic but I&#039;m trying to help you. Life is better without internet fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY LOOK RELIGION IS MENTIONED LET&#8217;S FIGHT</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t find it funny, don&#8217;t come here. This is a great webcomic, but in my opinion the comment section is not really necessary since all it does is start religious arguments. I know my statement makes this post a bit ironic but I&#8217;m trying to help you. Life is better without internet fights.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-103970</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this is really the point.  Atheist nations have not used their superstitions to rally the weak and gullible to them like religious people have.  At least an atheistic nation has to call it&#039;s aggression what it is, a quest for power, trade rights, etc etc etc, and can&#039;t hide behind the pointless bullshit that is retaking the holy land, someone said something mean about our prophet, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity, etc.

No one ever said that atheists were all peaceful, only that they aren&#039;t coerced by the logic that their leader talks to the sky god and has absolute divine righteousness and wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this is really the point.  Atheist nations have not used their superstitions to rally the weak and gullible to them like religious people have.  At least an atheistic nation has to call it&#8217;s aggression what it is, a quest for power, trade rights, etc etc etc, and can&#8217;t hide behind the pointless bullshit that is retaking the holy land, someone said something mean about our prophet, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity, etc.</p>
<p>No one ever said that atheists were all peaceful, only that they aren&#8217;t coerced by the logic that their leader talks to the sky god and has absolute divine righteousness and wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnieCanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-103969</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnieCanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely argued, Toast and Satantiago. Not that I expect him to let evidence dissuade him. Not when his chance for eternal life is on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely argued, Toast and Satantiago. Not that I expect him to let evidence dissuade him. Not when his chance for eternal life is on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Satantiago</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-103895</link>
		<dc:creator>Satantiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think Trotsky was murdered because of his religion? What do Soviet Union, Warsaw Pact satellites, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Khmer Rouge, various Latin revolutionaries, from Castro and Che, to FARC and the Shining Path have in common??? MARXISM in their socialist or communist streaks. They invaded countries, waged wars and killed &quot;for the common good of the people&quot; and to &quot;protect the achievements of Socialism from the reactionary western imperialism&quot;.  To them there is but one god which is the Socialist State and Marx is its prophet, their sacred texts are Das Kapital &amp; The Communist Manifesto, the Communist Internationals are their synods, their priesthood is The Party. Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Che are their saints and martyrs. And NAZI stands for Nationalsozialistische.

Imperial Japan&#039;s religion was Shintoism.

In Mein Kampf Hitler reveals himself as a Christian: 

&quot;And the Founder of Christianity made no secret
indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it
necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of
God&quot;

&quot;While our European people, God be praised and thanked, are left to
become the victims of moral depravity, the pious missionary goes out to
Central Africa and establishes missionary stations for negroes&quot;

Have a look at http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think Trotsky was murdered because of his religion? What do Soviet Union, Warsaw Pact satellites, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Khmer Rouge, various Latin revolutionaries, from Castro and Che, to FARC and the Shining Path have in common??? MARXISM in their socialist or communist streaks. They invaded countries, waged wars and killed &#8220;for the common good of the people&#8221; and to &#8220;protect the achievements of Socialism from the reactionary western imperialism&#8221;.  To them there is but one god which is the Socialist State and Marx is its prophet, their sacred texts are Das Kapital &amp; The Communist Manifesto, the Communist Internationals are their synods, their priesthood is The Party. Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Che are their saints and martyrs. And NAZI stands for Nationalsozialistische.</p>
<p>Imperial Japan&#8217;s religion was Shintoism.</p>
<p>In Mein Kampf Hitler reveals himself as a Christian: </p>
<p>&#8220;And the Founder of Christianity made no secret<br />
indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it<br />
necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of<br />
God&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;While our European people, God be praised and thanked, are left to<br />
become the victims of moral depravity, the pious missionary goes out to<br />
Central Africa and establishes missionary stations for negroes&#8221;</p>
<p>Have a look at <a href="http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm" rel="nofollow">http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry w</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/08/13/novel/#comment-103874</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quotes ........... as saying that he â€œâ€¦ regard Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of our national life.â€â€˜

a. George W. Bush
b. Adolph Hitler
c. Pat Robertson
d. John McCain
e. Ralph Reed
f. Gary Bauer
g. Jerry Falwell
h. James Dobson
i. Ronald Reagan
j. Billy Graham
k. I&#039;m tired of typing, all of the above and more......

Jerry w.
www.boskolives.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quotes &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. as saying that he â€œâ€¦ regard Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of our national life.â€â€˜</p>
<p>a. George W. Bush<br />
b. Adolph Hitler<br />
c. Pat Robertson<br />
d. John McCain<br />
e. Ralph Reed<br />
f. Gary Bauer<br />
g. Jerry Falwell<br />
h. James Dobson<br />
i. Ronald Reagan<br />
j. Billy Graham<br />
k. I&#8217;m tired of typing, all of the above and more&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Jerry w.<br />
<a href="http://www.boskolives.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.boskolives.wordpress.com</a></p>
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