I include Iraq because it is well known, for anyone paying attention, that Bush/Cheney, et al, were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq long before 9/11. Knowing how much they lie to the nation and congress, having read the PNAC, and the fact that they encourage torture of suspected terrorists, I have no doubt in my mind that they would be capable of allowing 9/11 to happen.

As for calling names, you’re right. Shouldn’t do that. No need. Anyone paying attention should know already that our “leaders” are simply Machiavellian. I think Cheney is interested only in the profit side of war and Bush just wanted to be idolized as a great president, and thought such idolization comes from leading a nation in time of war. see http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htmhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm.

I tend to believe the above because I know they lie and I know how secretive they are.

I am always willing to consider contrary arguments, unlike those who just pass off such questions as derived from the “conspiracy theory” crowd. Anyone who cannot see what Cheney and Bush are really like are simply ignoring the evidence.

Honestly, I’m surprised that with your belief that Bush and Cheney are behind letting the terrorist attack, you’re not just coming straight out and saying that Bush, his administration, and the thousands that would have had to be involved to do so, were behind the attacks themselves.

But, you believe what you wish, blame those that were only partly to blame instead of all that are to blame, and stress about the past while we slowly switch to Sharia Law one day at a time in the present and future.

Remember too, that Cheney was placed in charge of a terrorism task force in 2001 well before the attack. Cheney NEVER called a meeting.

I remember the bombings of the U.S.S. Cole, American embassy’s around the globe, and more importantly for my Marine brothers, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. This war goes much futher back than just “the Chimp,” as you call him, Craig. Even former-President Bill Clinton failed to take out Osama bin Laden when he had him in the sites.

But to complain now about the ineptitude of those in charge in the past is irrelevant as we should focus now on the future and to keep it from happening now. It’s just as bad as those that scream now it’s the Republican’s or Democrat’s fault that we are not drilling in the U.S. for the billions of gallons of oil that are here in the U.S. The fault lies with both sides; and they both need to open up to ways to solve the American (and world wide) energy crisis in the short AND long term. Drill now and produce oil so we don’t rely on the governments run by dictators who hate the west. Meanwhile, work with energy companies to come up with profitable and worthwhile energy solutions in the long term so we can stop using oil as much, if not altogether.

By the way, can we get away from the name calling of those we don’t like. It sounds far too much like bickering teenagers than rational adults who do recognize that religion is just a way for a group of people to force freedom loving people to do as they wish.

If you are giving the Chimp credit for stopping any other attacks, then you must also give him the blame for not stopping the Sept 11 attack, since he was in charge at that time.

“Afraid of Islam, many are not,” said Yoda. His voice changed to one of soft insistence, Yoda continued. “They should be. They should be.”

I’m a bigot as well, ticticboom, when it comes to all religions; because I don’t care for any religion that demands I follow their ways by threat of death in this world or eternal damnation in this world…all given to me by a “loving God”.

Guess I’m a bigot. I don’t like people who believe the ‘perfect example’ that every man should emulate is a murdering, thieving, raping, tyrant.

As for Islamophobia, if you’re not afraid of Islam, (in Yoda voice) “You should be.”

racist = someone who believes that anyone from a seperate race (not religion, sex or nationality) is inferior due to the genes of the person of the other race, making that person who holds these views more superior than the other race.

And no matter if Geert Wilders is a bigot or a racist, his film showed a lot of truths that the radical muslims don’t want people to focus on.

I’d be more impressed if they directed as much criticism towards terrorists who claim to be inspired by islam. If Bin Laden and his chums are perverting the peaceful message of Islam for their own ends, let’s see THEM burned in effigy instead of danish/dutch flags.

Nobody would be laughing at (or drawing) those cartoons if they didn’t have a streak of truth in them.

Geert Wilders is not Danish. He is Dutch. Like me, I am ashamed to admit.

Not that I believe nobody should be critical of Islam or whatever religion, but purely because he is a bigoted racist.

Albert Ross: Yes, those children, too.

Jerry W: Itchy palms are a sign of Mortal Sin. Didn’t your Mom tell you? It will also make you crazy.

Remember, we’re not at war with terror…we’re at war with radical Islamic extremists. If we went to war with actions instead of our real enemies, then after Pearl Harbor, we’d have declared a War on Sneak Attacks instead of the Japanese. Think about it.

Apparently, fundi Muslims, like run-of-the-mill street thugs, confuse “fear” (being afraid for your life), with “respect” (admiration or reverence). Both fundis and street thugs believe the more violent they are, the more they are admired. It never dawns on them that what they see in others is fear. No one admires them.

Come to think of it. I feel the same way about de facto president Dick Cheney and his sock puppet, G.W. Bush.

part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03OhSgLlETY
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQP4QK834Rk
part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIdw2vIHbHI
part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kie_rYz1AJQ
part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvvgl8U0hBs
part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2W-NI6afI

That said, the Islamics are especially dangerous because without their religion the vast majority of them would have to confront the fact that in the modern world in almost every sense they are total zeros, nothings, nonentities. In the last half century, the entire Islamic world has filed only a tiny fraction of all international patents. The GNP of the entire Arab world is less than that of Spain, and without oil, the Arab world would likely be little more than Somalia writ large. In addition, modern media have very effectively made the Islamic masses painfully aware of the disparity between the prosperous Infidels and the impoverished and marginalized faithful. The ones that have relocated to the First World have their noses rubbed in it at every turn.

The point? The fastest, cheapest and simplest way to be important to others is to be dangerous. One had best pay attention to the fanatic with an AK, a RPG or even a dagger when that individual would otherwise be beneath notice. This applies to nations as well as individuals.

The solution? I don’t know if there is any realistic one. We’re all in for a very scary time. And then add to that the Malthusian catastrophe of 6.6 billion humans on this little planet, many of whom are starving already, and . . .

I agree 100% with the spirit of your post. That said, since it’s (more or less, blurred a bit by my aging brain) a quote, perhaps you could give credit for the piece to Samuel Adams?

Cheers,
Jerry W

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