What if your religion’s holy books prescribe assaulting, disenfranchising, or liquidating those belonging to another religion (or None of the Above). Why should that be respected? Even if you sanitise the ugly bits, why give that much slack to such a credo?

Religions are inherent divisive and provide no actual, tangible benefit that a secular option couldn’t provide.
So let’s kick ‘em all to the curb, and the donkeys they rode in on.

I include Iraq because it is well known, for anyone paying attention, that Bush/Cheney, et al, were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq long before 9/11. Knowing how much they lie to the nation and congress, having read the PNAC, and the fact that they encourage torture of suspected terrorists, I have no doubt in my mind that they would be capable of allowing 9/11 to happen.

As for calling names, you’re right. Shouldn’t do that. No need. Anyone paying attention should know already that our “leaders” are simply Machiavellian. I think Cheney is interested only in the profit side of war and Bush just wanted to be idolized as a great president, and thought such idolization comes from leading a nation in time of war. see http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htmhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm.

I tend to believe the above because I know they lie and I know how secretive they are.

I am always willing to consider contrary arguments, unlike those who just pass off such questions as derived from the “conspiracy theory” crowd. Anyone who cannot see what Cheney and Bush are really like are simply ignoring the evidence.

Honestly, I’m surprised that with your belief that Bush and Cheney are behind letting the terrorist attack, you’re not just coming straight out and saying that Bush, his administration, and the thousands that would have had to be involved to do so, were behind the attacks themselves.

But, you believe what you wish, blame those that were only partly to blame instead of all that are to blame, and stress about the past while we slowly switch to Sharia Law one day at a time in the present and future.

Remember too, that Cheney was placed in charge of a terrorism task force in 2001 well before the attack. Cheney NEVER called a meeting.

I remember the bombings of the U.S.S. Cole, American embassy’s around the globe, and more importantly for my Marine brothers, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut. This war goes much futher back than just “the Chimp,” as you call him, Craig. Even former-President Bill Clinton failed to take out Osama bin Laden when he had him in the sites.

But to complain now about the ineptitude of those in charge in the past is irrelevant as we should focus now on the future and to keep it from happening now. It’s just as bad as those that scream now it’s the Republican’s or Democrat’s fault that we are not drilling in the U.S. for the billions of gallons of oil that are here in the U.S. The fault lies with both sides; and they both need to open up to ways to solve the American (and world wide) energy crisis in the short AND long term. Drill now and produce oil so we don’t rely on the governments run by dictators who hate the west. Meanwhile, work with energy companies to come up with profitable and worthwhile energy solutions in the long term so we can stop using oil as much, if not altogether.

By the way, can we get away from the name calling of those we don’t like. It sounds far too much like bickering teenagers than rational adults who do recognize that religion is just a way for a group of people to force freedom loving people to do as they wish.

If you are giving the Chimp credit for stopping any other attacks, then you must also give him the blame for not stopping the Sept 11 attack, since he was in charge at that time.

“Afraid of Islam, many are not,” said Yoda. His voice changed to one of soft insistence, Yoda continued. “They should be. They should be.”

I’m a bigot as well, ticticboom, when it comes to all religions; because I don’t care for any religion that demands I follow their ways by threat of death in this world or eternal damnation in this world…all given to me by a “loving God”.

Guess I’m a bigot. I don’t like people who believe the ‘perfect example’ that every man should emulate is a murdering, thieving, raping, tyrant.

As for Islamophobia, if you’re not afraid of Islam, (in Yoda voice) “You should be.”

racist = someone who believes that anyone from a seperate race (not religion, sex or nationality) is inferior due to the genes of the person of the other race, making that person who holds these views more superior than the other race.

And no matter if Geert Wilders is a bigot or a racist, his film showed a lot of truths that the radical muslims don’t want people to focus on.