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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamidreza,

I believe you are quite correct to point out that there is no equivalence between Islam and modern Catholicism. Truly, while Catholicism&#039;s secretive anti-rational cult is a pernicious influence, it is Islam that is a threat to freedom (also in western countries through pressure to squelch freedom of expression), world peace and the safety and well-being of any non-brainwashed citizens of countries suffering under it in one form or another. 

I am convinced that Islam poses the greatest threat to life and liberty of any factor in the world today. Yes, this is a cartoon, but I believe the distinction was definitely worth pointing out.

For a bit of perspective, from which religion would we expect what sort of action if the author&#039;s identity were to be revealed? From which religion&#039;s followers would police protection be necessary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamidreza,</p>
<p>I believe you are quite correct to point out that there is no equivalence between Islam and modern Catholicism. Truly, while Catholicism&#8217;s secretive anti-rational cult is a pernicious influence, it is Islam that is a threat to freedom (also in western countries through pressure to squelch freedom of expression), world peace and the safety and well-being of any non-brainwashed citizens of countries suffering under it in one form or another. </p>
<p>I am convinced that Islam poses the greatest threat to life and liberty of any factor in the world today. Yes, this is a cartoon, but I believe the distinction was definitely worth pointing out.</p>
<p>For a bit of perspective, from which religion would we expect what sort of action if the author&#8217;s identity were to be revealed? From which religion&#8217;s followers would police protection be necessary?</p>
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		<title>By: J&#38;M</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75838</link>
		<dc:creator>J&#38;M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hamidreza,

The Catholic Church was burning heretics at the stake. Heretics included scientists. I suppose that would be the equivalent in Catholicism. 

I&#039;m sure anyone who read this comic is not defending Islam. Most of the comics take a hit at Islam (not including the depiction of Mo and all that) so you&#039;re basically &quot;preaching to the choir&quot; when you tell us it&#039;s bad. What we&#039;re saying though is that the others should not be given any slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamidreza,</p>
<p>The Catholic Church was burning heretics at the stake. Heretics included scientists. I suppose that would be the equivalent in Catholicism. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone who read this comic is not defending Islam. Most of the comics take a hit at Islam (not including the depiction of Mo and all that) so you&#8217;re basically &#8220;preaching to the choir&#8221; when you tell us it&#8217;s bad. What we&#8217;re saying though is that the others should not be given any slack.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75730</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hamidreza,

I doubt if anybody disagrees with you that Islam currently holds the top slot when it comes to oppressive religious beliefs. 

We just don&#039;t see that as a reason to cut other religions any slack when they come up with something both odious and dumb (such as a new bunch of reasons for going to hell - unless you take advantage of our new improved indulgences special.)

Most of us here emerged from a christian background, so we are naturally alert to christian churches trying to regain lost authority. Doesn&#039;t mean we are blind to what is happening in islam. Really, we are basically on the same side.

Someone who came through what you came through will see the religion that oppressed their youth in a different light to those who see it from the outside. Just as someone who came through, say, a Christian Brothers orphanage will see catholicism in a different light to you.

Same picture, different perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamidreza,</p>
<p>I doubt if anybody disagrees with you that Islam currently holds the top slot when it comes to oppressive religious beliefs. </p>
<p>We just don&#8217;t see that as a reason to cut other religions any slack when they come up with something both odious and dumb (such as a new bunch of reasons for going to hell &#8211; unless you take advantage of our new improved indulgences special.)</p>
<p>Most of us here emerged from a christian background, so we are naturally alert to christian churches trying to regain lost authority. Doesn&#8217;t mean we are blind to what is happening in islam. Really, we are basically on the same side.</p>
<p>Someone who came through what you came through will see the religion that oppressed their youth in a different light to those who see it from the outside. Just as someone who came through, say, a Christian Brothers orphanage will see catholicism in a different light to you.</p>
<p>Same picture, different perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75721</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the most dirtiest tactics (brainwashing children from age 5)&quot;
Never heard of Catholic school?

&quot;...then they become the good guys, I guess.&quot;
Yeah, because Catholics are getting beaten up all the time these days just for being Catholic, eh?  Muslims -- in the US, anyway -- are never assumed to be terrorists or discriminated against or anything. No, nuh-uh, not ever.

&quot;the true, literal, eternal, immutable, and perfect word of god which must be obeyed at the risk of&quot; stoning.

Okay, so there&#039;s a difference -- Christians are big on stoning, not so into swordplay.  All that stuff you mentioned, though, is there in the bible too.


&quot;I grew up with Islam, and let me assure all the postcolonials and postmoderns, that there is nothing romantic about it. It is a primitive, oppressive religion and a shameful religion the way it treats children, women, and dissenters.&quot;
I grew up with Catholicism, and let me assure all the postcolonials and postmoderns, that there is nothing romantic about it. It is a primitive, oppressive religion and a shameful religion the way it treats children, women, and dissenters.

I guess you know what you know.  I didn&#039;t grow up with Islam, so I didn&#039;t realize it was as bad as Catholicism.  You, apparently, didn&#039;t grow up with Catholicism, so you don&#039;t realize it&#039;s as bad as Islam.

Why can&#039;t we all just agree to hate everyone equally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the most dirtiest tactics (brainwashing children from age 5)&#8221;<br />
Never heard of Catholic school?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;then they become the good guys, I guess.&#8221;<br />
Yeah, because Catholics are getting beaten up all the time these days just for being Catholic, eh?  Muslims &#8212; in the US, anyway &#8212; are never assumed to be terrorists or discriminated against or anything. No, nuh-uh, not ever.</p>
<p>&#8220;the true, literal, eternal, immutable, and perfect word of god which must be obeyed at the risk of&#8221; stoning.</p>
<p>Okay, so there&#8217;s a difference &#8212; Christians are big on stoning, not so into swordplay.  All that stuff you mentioned, though, is there in the bible too.</p>
<p>&#8220;I grew up with Islam, and let me assure all the postcolonials and postmoderns, that there is nothing romantic about it. It is a primitive, oppressive religion and a shameful religion the way it treats children, women, and dissenters.&#8221;<br />
I grew up with Catholicism, and let me assure all the postcolonials and postmoderns, that there is nothing romantic about it. It is a primitive, oppressive religion and a shameful religion the way it treats children, women, and dissenters.</p>
<p>I guess you know what you know.  I didn&#8217;t grow up with Islam, so I didn&#8217;t realize it was as bad as Catholicism.  You, apparently, didn&#8217;t grow up with Catholicism, so you don&#8217;t realize it&#8217;s as bad as Islam.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we all just agree to hate everyone equally?</p>
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		<title>By: jerry w.</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75711</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill them all....

Let mother nature sort out the remains.

There, now that didn&#039;t hurt too bad, did it?

http://boskolives.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill them all&#8230;.</p>
<p>Let mother nature sort out the remains.</p>
<p>There, now that didn&#8217;t hurt too bad, did it?</p>
<p><a href="http://boskolives.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://boskolives.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jakob</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75687</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hamidreza

Since when does criticising one set of irrational beliefs preclude criticising another?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hamidreza</p>
<p>Since when does criticising one set of irrational beliefs preclude criticising another?</p>
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		<title>By: BWM</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75678</link>
		<dc:creator>BWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New here, but I had something to point out to this Hamidreza; uh, the best I can understand from your posts, you believe that the author should do nothing BUT attack Islam, because it&#039;s so much worse. Yes, it&#039;s way worse than Catholicism. Got it. Understood. Awesome. Doesn&#039;t mean the author can&#039;t rip on Catholicism, Scientology, Mormonism, Judaism, Voodoo, and the religious beliefs of the !Kung if he feel so inclined. Attacking only one religion should, as an atheist, offend you; after all, they are ALL intellectual deceits, even if they have varying degrees of earthly sin in their actions. 

Really, this IS a comic; it&#039;s meant for a combination of fun and intellectual thought. It is not meant to be an anti-Islam blog. And, for the record, I am not a &quot;postmodern&quot; or &quot;postcolonial&quot; thinker, whatever you might view one as being. 

So, for everyone&#039;s sake, including your own, try and have fun, will ya? Pestering will not change anyone&#039;s mind and, furthermore, everyone here seems to essentially AGREE with your main view; they simply don&#039;t agree with the direction you want a webcomic to go in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New here, but I had something to point out to this Hamidreza; uh, the best I can understand from your posts, you believe that the author should do nothing BUT attack Islam, because it&#8217;s so much worse. Yes, it&#8217;s way worse than Catholicism. Got it. Understood. Awesome. Doesn&#8217;t mean the author can&#8217;t rip on Catholicism, Scientology, Mormonism, Judaism, Voodoo, and the religious beliefs of the !Kung if he feel so inclined. Attacking only one religion should, as an atheist, offend you; after all, they are ALL intellectual deceits, even if they have varying degrees of earthly sin in their actions. </p>
<p>Really, this IS a comic; it&#8217;s meant for a combination of fun and intellectual thought. It is not meant to be an anti-Islam blog. And, for the record, I am not a &#8220;postmodern&#8221; or &#8220;postcolonial&#8221; thinker, whatever you might view one as being. </p>
<p>So, for everyone&#8217;s sake, including your own, try and have fun, will ya? Pestering will not change anyone&#8217;s mind and, furthermore, everyone here seems to essentially AGREE with your main view; they simply don&#8217;t agree with the direction you want a webcomic to go in.</p>
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		<title>By: ms morbo</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75650</link>
		<dc:creator>ms morbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you look at them year on year (ie, if you take the date on the current islamic calander and look at where the catholic church was on the same date on its own calader) they&#039;re pretty even. 

so islam will probably be where the catholicas are now once they get up to their own 2000.

...and the scientologists will be about halfway to their &quot;rampant human rights abuses and blowing shit up&quot; phase. though they&#039;re getting off to a speedy start so it could be sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you look at them year on year (ie, if you take the date on the current islamic calander and look at where the catholic church was on the same date on its own calader) they&#8217;re pretty even. </p>
<p>so islam will probably be where the catholicas are now once they get up to their own 2000.</p>
<p>&#8230;and the scientologists will be about halfway to their &#8220;rampant human rights abuses and blowing shit up&#8221; phase. though they&#8217;re getting off to a speedy start so it could be sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamidreza</title>
		<link>http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/03/11/sins/#comment-75641</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamidreza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristian - obviously you can&#039;t fathom the religious fascism called Islam.  You have no idea what goes on in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran, when you equate that with Catholicism.

Let me give you a hint:  Capital punishment for blasphemy.  What is your equivalent in Catholicism, may I ask?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristian &#8211; obviously you can&#8217;t fathom the religious fascism called Islam.  You have no idea what goes on in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran, when you equate that with Catholicism.</p>
<p>Let me give you a hint:  Capital punishment for blasphemy.  What is your equivalent in Catholicism, may I ask?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it a rest, Hamid. None of us here really give a toss about any religion. They&#039;re all as bad as each other. Do you think catholicism isn&#039;t brainwashing kids? If my nephews &amp; nieces were older, they might be able to provide you with evidence. 
Back when I was attending a catholic primary school, I was lucky enough to see through it.

So chill. It&#039;s not all about your ex-god. The rest of us have ex-gods, or would-have-been-gods-had-we-not-seen-through-the-nonsense-earlier as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it a rest, Hamid. None of us here really give a toss about any religion. They&#8217;re all as bad as each other. Do you think catholicism isn&#8217;t brainwashing kids? If my nephews &amp; nieces were older, they might be able to provide you with evidence.<br />
Back when I was attending a catholic primary school, I was lucky enough to see through it.</p>
<p>So chill. It&#8217;s not all about your ex-god. The rest of us have ex-gods, or would-have-been-gods-had-we-not-seen-through-the-nonsense-earlier as well.</p>
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