Comments on: zeal http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/ Two prophets, living together. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:52:27 +0000 hourly 1 By: fenchurch http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-175262 fenchurch Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:32:03 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-175262 @Martin T: What difference does it make re: a new religion vs. an old one? An idea isn't more true or more venerable or more deserving of attention because it's old. It's possible that a bunch of middle eastern folks were scoffing in the 600's "Why should we listen to this illiterate shepherd who needs to be supported by his rich wife. What a delusional bum!" Wrong ideas still catch on despite their contemporaries being in a position to witness their origins. @Martin T: What difference does it make re: a new religion vs. an old one?

An idea isn’t more true or more venerable or more deserving of attention because it’s old.

It’s possible that a bunch of middle eastern folks were scoffing in the 600′s “Why should we listen to this illiterate shepherd who needs to be supported by his rich wife. What a delusional bum!”

Wrong ideas still catch on despite their contemporaries being in a position to witness their origins.

]]> By: Bagpuss http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-170671 Bagpuss Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:19:28 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-170671 T.....whilst you might consider belief in God to be purely personal, unfortunately many believers don't, preferring to impose upon others throughout the world their tyrannical and oppressive views, justified by the irrational and positively dangerous scripts written by disillusional men many hundreds of years ago when we knew so much less than we do now. I know that modern secular systems are a long way from being perfect but give me an approach that relies on people having to make an effort and take responsibility for our own actions through thought, debate and discussion. Oh, and believing in god is also incredibly weak and silly. T…..whilst you might consider belief in God to be purely personal, unfortunately many believers don’t, preferring to impose upon others throughout the world their tyrannical and oppressive views, justified by the irrational and positively dangerous scripts written by disillusional men many hundreds of years ago when we knew so much less than we do now. I know that modern secular systems are a long way from being perfect but give me an approach that relies on people having to make an effort and take responsibility for our own actions through thought, debate and discussion.

Oh, and believing in god is also incredibly weak and silly.

]]> By: Teralek http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-168671 Teralek Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:27:52 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-168671 actually, the same could be said about atheism. "No matter how hard others believe, as long as it’s not what you believe, it’s not true" And before you jump to science, God is outside of scientific scrutiny. So believing in a God is purely personal. actually, the same could be said about atheism. “No matter how hard others believe, as long as it’s not what you believe, it’s not true”
And before you jump to science, God is outside of scientific scrutiny. So believing in a God is purely personal.

]]> By: yelinna http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-75876 yelinna Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:31:22 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-75876 This one in hilarious!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D This one in hilarious!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

]]> By: Nightentity http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-72784 Nightentity Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:30:49 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-72784 January 26th, 2008 at 9:30 am Well, I haven’t heard of any Christian or Muslim organisations getting their leaders convicted on criminal charges for running covert operations against government agencies, so there is that difference. Well, islam was founded by a a person who was basically a gangster. He ran protection rackets and had people murdered, to give just two examples. Hmmmmmmm guess you don't know as much about Islam as you think you do hun ;) lol January 26th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Well, I haven’t heard of any Christian or Muslim organisations getting their leaders convicted on criminal charges for running covert operations against government agencies, so there is that difference.

Well, islam was founded by a a person who was basically a gangster. He ran protection rackets and had people murdered, to give just two examples.

Hmmmmmmm guess you don’t know as much about Islam as you think you do hun ;) lol

]]> By: Martin Treadwell http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-71456 Martin Treadwell Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:12:01 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-71456 Re Scientology and other religions - this does present me with a bit of a paradox. On one hand, Scientology has exactly the same amount of evidence to back it up as any other religion, but on the other hand...you can say what you like about Christianity or Islam, but at least they weren't invented in the 1950s by a hack science-fiction author and known fantasist. Re Scientology and other religions – this does present me with a bit of a paradox. On one hand, Scientology has exactly the same amount of evidence to back it up as any other religion, but on the other hand…you can say what you like about Christianity or Islam, but at least they weren’t invented in the 1950s by a hack science-fiction author and known fantasist.

]]> By: fontor http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70406 fontor Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:27:28 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70406 Ha! Jesus and Mo are laughing at idiots, but they're idiots, too! And I'm laughing at them! Wait... I guess the only way to avoid this trap is to believe in nothing without evidence. Ha! Jesus and Mo are laughing at idiots, but they’re idiots, too!

And I’m laughing at them!

Wait…

I guess the only way to avoid this trap is to believe in nothing without evidence.

]]> By: Hobbes http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70364 Hobbes Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:55:15 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70364 Err . . . "hig<b>h</b>est" Err . . . “highest”

]]> By: Hobbes http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70363 Hobbes Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:53:21 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70363 And, I like the "stupidity-Tax" idea. It could be progressive tax, with the heaviest being applied to fundamentalists. All current Bush supporters would be in the higest bracket as well. And, I like the “stupidity-Tax” idea.

It could be progressive tax, with the heaviest being applied to fundamentalists. All current Bush supporters would be in the higest bracket as well.

]]> By: Hobbes http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70355 Hobbes Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:19:42 +0000 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/01/25/zeal/#comment-70355 I like to refer to myself as an agnostic with latent atheistic tendencies. There is no objective evidence, so the lack of thereof goes against such a being. Observing the state of humanity, I'd say there is no god, or there is an evil god, or the universe is run by a committee of incompetent gods, none of which agree with the others. In any case, none would be worth worshiping. I like to refer to myself as an agnostic with latent atheistic tendencies. There is no objective evidence, so the lack of thereof goes against such a being.

Observing the state of humanity, I’d say there is no god, or there is an evil god, or the universe is run by a committee of incompetent gods, none of which agree with the others. In any case, none would be worth worshiping.

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