Comments on: toxic

By: fenchurch

fenchurch — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:04:32 +0000

@Mags: that would be like having a headache, taking a pain reliever, finding that the headache still persists, and praying to the Great Gazoo for a cure, and voila, no more headache.

Now, if you were taking other meds and then did some voodoo before the problem went away, how can you attribute the cure to the voodoo?
Not only were you taking meds, but some problems go away on their own. I’m sure when I injured my knee on a resort holiday & could barely walk, the cure was scarcely the endless free wine spritzers I was consuming all day.

By: fallingleaf

fallingleaf — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:04:48 +0000

Not that I believe it, but the claim of homeopathy is that the diluted solution will have the opposite effect of the original substance. So something that causes vomiting, when diluted, would be an anti-nausea drug. So a small amount of pollution would make the ocean cleaner than no pollution? Homeopathy is still bollocks!

By: ARU

ARU — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:18:22 +0000

I love the bit about pollution in the ocean. I wonder what the excuse would be for that…

By: carolita

carolita — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:05:24 +0000

Those buttocks (on both Jesus and Mo) are very humanity in all its human homeliness.

By: Jel

Jel — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:20:53 +0000

If you read Alan Bennett’s Untold Stories- homeopaths do try to use their snake oil for cancer.

Expensive snake oil at that.

It’s missing legs that they don’t use it for – just like miracle cures. And with the same effect

By: tie

tie — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:39:43 +0000

roodbooy… not sure what you are on about.

double blind controlled tests are design to remove bias from a test, if homoeopathy seems to “work” outside the controlled tests, but it does not make a difference when double blind tests are in place, then the positive effect is placebo.

that is why they don’t use homoeopathy for serious stuff, like a Cancer. Wishing it to disappear with all your heart, does not make it so. Even if you feel better about it for the time being.

By: r00db00y

r00db00y — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:15:44 +0000

Hey tie,

So what if you try it just to prove someone wrong, but it ends up working better than the prescribed stuff? Is that still faith? I suppose “subconciously” you’d actually be telling yourself it works, right, that’s why it works? Can someone pray without actually knowing it?

By: tie

tie — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:56:24 +0000

Mags, it’s called the “placebo effect” of a 1hour pep talk with a doctor and water with a fancy sticker on it.

If diluting made compounds stronger, then all natural springs would be toxic, due to minute traces of excrement in the soil, minute traces of mercury …

Every time they do controlled double blind tests on homeopathy it shows no effect.
Whatever you like it or not, telling yourself it worked is EXACTLY what makes it work. It’s called Placebo, or prayer, or faith.

By: prozacville

prozacville — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:31:12 +0000

I’m finding myself getting quietly turned on here by J&M’s flabby buttocks. Worrying.

By: Mags

Mags — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:35:38 +0000

Well now, I may not believe in magic but when I broke my arm the Arnica 30 (a homoeopathic [note spelling] dilution) it worked better than the heavy duty drugs the medics approved. Not that I believed it would, it just did… Anything was worth trying!